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« on: February 14, 2012, 06:29:01 AM »

God gave us free will as a gift.
Sin is a result of this free will.
We choose to sin rather than obey God’s commandment.
If, of my own volition, not wanting to sin anymore
 and recognizing the fact that I am weak, I give God back my free will.
I choose freely to give Him back His gift of free will.
 I really, really want Him to have it back.
 All I want is His Will to prevail in my life so that I sin no more.
Will He take it back?

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« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2012, 06:16:43 PM »

Nope.
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« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2012, 10:43:40 PM »

Nope.

 Short and to the point  Grin
No matter how well intentioned, there is simply no giving back a gift, is that it?
Thanks Bailey
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« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2012, 03:30:53 AM »

 happy roll
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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2012, 09:07:47 AM »

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Practical Bailey answer. Grin
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« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2012, 09:08:04 AM »

Odhiambo, you cannot give back if you have no choice.  And there would be no meaning in Christ's suffering; He would have suffered and rose from the dead for nothing.  Rejoice in your free will.  He used his free will also, and we follow!

Well, it has snowed 3 inches here, 8 up in the foothills, and they did NOT give the kids (and parents) a two hour delay.  So, I spent 20 minutes cleaning off the walkways and driveway and another 20 minutes cleaning off our son's car because there was ice under the snow.  Learned on FB that 3 kids were in accidents on the way to school; fortunately our son wasn't one of them  (he would have called).  But, after all that cleaning I took Bailey1 out into the snow and we ran and played for about an hour.  Now I'm ready to go back to bed!  But, have work to do so.........  Cheesy
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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2012, 04:24:34 PM »

Odhiambo, you cannot give back if you have no choice.  And there would be no meaning in Christ's suffering; He would have suffered and rose from the dead for nothing.  Rejoice in your free will.  He used his free will also, and we follow!
Ok Bailey, I see it better now, thanks.
It is something to do with "No pain, no gain".
To some extent, we have to earn Heaven.
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« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2012, 05:37:09 PM »

No pain, no gain.   happy roll happy roll rotfl rotfl blue

Sometimes I think there are some who get plenty of gain with no pain.  And I commit the sin of envy every time I think of them!   Grin
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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2012, 07:13:56 AM »

God will not take back our free will because it is His gift to us.

But what we can do is match our will with God's.

That is what Jesus is always doing.  His will is according to His Father's will.

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« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2012, 11:47:41 AM »

God will not take back our free will because it is His gift to us.

But what we can do is match our will with God's.

That is what Jesus is always doing.  His will is according to His Father's will.

 Little Angel

Good to see you around pebbles, welcome back  Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2012, 05:43:58 AM »

Thanks!

I think I had an early Lent  Grin

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« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2012, 06:14:13 AM »

It's not about God taking back our free will, but how we are to transform it to His will.  Like in this prayer.

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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2012, 07:02:52 AM »


But I will make the king stubborn, and he will not listen to you, no matter how many terrifying things I do in Egypt. Then I will bring severe punishment on Egypt and lead the tribes of my people out of the land.

Exodus 7:3-4
Good News Translation (GNT).

From the above it would appear that the King had no real choice in the matter; The Lord Himself said He was the one to make the King stubborn so as to punish the Egyptians!
I have been trying to understand this. Can anyone throw some light on it?
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“Late have I loved Thee,
 O Beauty ever ancient, ever new,
 late have I loved Thee!......”
St. Augustine of Hippo
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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2012, 02:20:36 AM »

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But I will make the king stubborn, and he will not listen to you, no matter how many terrifying things I do in Egypt. Then I will bring severe punishment on Egypt and lead the tribes of my people out of the land.

Exodus 7:3-4
Good News Translation (GNT).

From the above it would appear that the King had no real choice in the matter; The Lord Himself said He was the one to make the King stubborn so as to punish the Egyptians and also that they may know He is God.
I have been trying to understand this. Can anyone throw some light on it?
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St. Augustine of Hippo
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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2012, 04:59:38 AM »

Well I know one answer I've heard to it, but, actually I don't care for it too much so I want to think about it a bit too. Cheesy
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