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Title: New Holy Quiz
Post by: Shin on January 18, 2013, 02:37:35 AM
Here's a thread for some new quiz questions..

Here's the first!

What are the sacraments of the living, and what are the sacraments of the dead?

 :D


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: odhiambo on January 18, 2013, 08:29:00 AM
Here's a thread for some new quiz questions..

Here's the first!

What are the sacraments of the living, and what are the sacraments of the dead?

 :D

Baptism and Penance are the Sacraments of the dead, The other five are all sacraments of the living.


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: Patricia on January 18, 2013, 11:42:15 AM
Confession and Extreme Unction for the dead? Rest for the living?


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: Shin on January 18, 2013, 01:17:15 PM
One correct, one incorrect answer from Patricia! :D

Odhiambo, you've got it! :D

It's about the souls, rather than the bodies!

If the soul is in a state of grace -- what sacraments are there for it? Those are the sacraments for the living.

 ;D


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: Shin on January 18, 2013, 04:19:45 PM
Here's another quiz question! :D

What are the sins called which the priest does not have authority to absolve?



Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: odhiambo on January 19, 2013, 04:16:29 AM
Here's another quiz question! :D

What are the sins called which the priest does not have authority to absolve?


That is a difficult one Shin, I always thought the priest could absolve all sins as long as we repent them;  but thinking about it now, maybe sacrilege would fall under that category sins?


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: Shin on January 19, 2013, 04:35:43 AM
No, that's not it. :)

The 'the authority' part is the clue here. :D

It's not a particular kind of sin, but rather, a name for those which the priest does not have the authority. . .  ;D


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: odhiambo on January 19, 2013, 11:27:14 AM
No, that's not it. :)

The 'the authority' part is the clue here. :D

It's not a particular kind of sin, but rather, a name for those which the priest does not have the authority. . .  ;D

The priest cannot forgive unrepented sins.


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: Patricia on January 19, 2013, 11:47:18 AM
I agree with Odhiambo. Priest also could not forgive a non-Catholic , right?


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: Brigid on January 19, 2013, 06:19:39 PM
I think abortion and other excommunications are ones only the bishop (or His Holiness of course) or those priests he's given those faculties to are not normally allowed to be forgiven by any priest. I don't know what the name of those kinds of sins are though.


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: Shin on January 20, 2013, 06:09:12 AM
Haha, these are all good answers, so I will say the question is answered. :D

And will reveal the technical term for the sins that cannot be forgiven because of lack of authority.

'reserved sins'

It's as simple as that. :D

Certain sins are reserved to the bishop and the pope to forgive (the pope generally delegates). These are called reserved sins.

And yes too, unrepented sins cannot be forgiven. If the priest were to pronounce absolution, it would still not be forgiven and an additional sin would be committed in the process.

Here is an excerpt from an article on the topic:

Reserved cases : "A term used for sins whose absolution is not within the power of every confessor, but is reserved to himself by the superior of the confessor, or only specially granted to some other confessor by that superior. To reserve a case is then to refuse jurisdiction for the absolution of a certain sin. Christ gave power to the rulers of His Church to make such reservations: "Whose sins you shall retain they are retained" (John 20:23). The reservation of sins presupposes jurisdiction, and therefore the pope alone can make reservation for the whole Church; bishops can do the same for their diocese only, and certain regular prelates for their religious subjects. That a sin be reserved it must be mortal, external, and consummated. If a sin be reserved in one diocese, and a penitent, without the intention of evading the law, confess to a priest in another diocese where the sin is not reserved, the latter may absolve the reserved sin. Cases are reserved either merely on account of the sin itself, that is without censure, or on account of the censure attached to it. If a penitent be in danger of death, any priest can absolve him, both from reserved censures and reserved sins. In case of reserved censures, if he recover, he must later present himself to the one having special power for reserved censures, unless the case was simply reserved to the pope. As to reserved sins, he need not, as a general rule, present himself again after convalescence. In a case of urgent necessity, when it is not possible to have recourse to the proper superior, an ordinary priest may absolve a penitent, directly from unreserved sins and indirectly from episcopal reserved cases, but the penitent must afterwards apply to the person having power to absolve from the reservation. "


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: odhiambo on January 20, 2013, 07:16:39 AM
Thanks Shin! I have never come across this term and am happy to have learnt it today. :thumbsup:


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: Brigid on January 20, 2013, 04:01:53 PM
Oh yeah, I've heard this and am  :-[  not to have remembered it.


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: Shin on January 20, 2013, 07:56:12 PM
Haha, be happy your memory has been refreshed!  :flower:

I would never have thought of this answer. When you give the riddles you look a lot more knowledgeable than you actually are!  :rotflblue:


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: odhiambo on March 10, 2013, 07:13:38 AM

Which two common Muslim names are found in our Holy Book?





Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: Brigid on March 10, 2013, 04:29:24 PM
Mohammed and Mary.


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: Shin on March 10, 2013, 07:42:02 PM
Hmm.. I don' t know but I am going to guess..

Joseph or Yusef? If that's the derivative of it? Might not be!

What more common name is there than Joe? :D


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: Patricia on March 11, 2013, 12:41:35 AM
Ishmael and Mariam?


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: odhiambo on March 11, 2013, 04:45:06 AM
Mohammed and Mary.
Not the ones I have in mind. Does the name "Mohammed" appear in the Bible?
I have tried to check but nothing comes up.
Mary, Hmmm, they use Mariam which is not in the Bible.


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: odhiambo on March 11, 2013, 04:52:17 AM
Mohammed and Mary.

Not the ones I have in mind. Does the name "Mohammed" appear in the Bible?
I have tried to check but nothing comes up.
Mary, Hmmm, they use Mariam or Maryam, which is not in the Bible.
Give it another try. Think of Genesis and a certain ancestor of both the Israelites and the Arabs
and how it came about  ;D


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: odhiambo on March 11, 2013, 04:56:21 AM
Hmm.. I don' t know but I am going to guess..

Joseph or Yusef? If that's the derivative of it? Might not be!

What more common name is there than Joe? :D

 Hardly a Muslim name Shin  ;D
Give it another try  ;D


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: odhiambo on March 11, 2013, 04:58:18 AM
Ishmael and Mariam?

Ishmael, yes! :happyroll:
Congrats Patricia!
One down, one more to go :)


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: Patricia on March 11, 2013, 10:52:24 AM
Ephraim?


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: odhiambo on March 11, 2013, 01:57:36 PM
Ephraim?

I think Ephraim is a Hebrew name.
The name I found in the Bible and which surprised me no end is " Abdi"!
It is mentioned three times in the Bible and each time it refers to a different man.
I know someone called Abdi here. He has a car for hire and I use him almost daily as I do not own a car.
On Sunday I told him his name is in the Bible and he was also surprised.
Here are the references.

1 Chronicles 6:44
 Ethan of the clan of Merari was the leader of the third choir. His family line went back to Levi as follows: Ethan, Kishi, Abdi, Malluch.

2 Chronicles 29:12

The following Levites were there:
From the clan of Kohath, Mahath son of Amasai and Joel son of Azariah
From the clan of Merari, Kish son of Abdi and Azariah son of Jehallelel.

Ezra 10:26
 Clan of Elam: Mattaniah, Zechariah, Jehiel, Abdi, Jeremoth, and Elijah


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: Poche on August 02, 2013, 02:49:46 AM
Actually there are several Muslim names that are found in the Bible. Joseph (Yusuf) Ismael, Mary (Miriam) John ((Yunis) Abraham (Ibrihim) Zacharia, 


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: odhiambo on October 06, 2013, 09:28:04 AM
 The Introductory Rites.
Sunday Mass.
The Priest greets the congregation: " The Lord be with you".
If it is the celebrant is the Bishop, what is his greeting?


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: odhiambo on October 07, 2013, 02:51:21 AM
And another:
How many blows did Our Lord receive during His Passion?
This is just a chance to give you the opportunity to know this blessed number so feel free to check. :)

"I received 5480 blows on My Body" Jesus told Saint Bridget


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: Shin on October 07, 2013, 01:58:06 PM
A splendid question! :D And there's a splendid devotion to go with it!! Thats a hint!  ;D


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: Brigid on October 07, 2013, 03:32:19 PM
And another:
How many blows did Our Lord receive during His Passion?
This is just a chance to give you the opportunity to know this blessed number so feel free to check. :)

"I received 5480 blows on My Body" Jesus told Saint Bridget


33?


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: Shin on October 07, 2013, 04:34:59 PM
Isn't that how many years He lived?  :crucifix:


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: Poche on October 09, 2013, 01:19:53 AM
Mohammed and Mary.

Not the ones I have in mind. Does the name "Mohammed" appear in the Bible?
I have tried to check but nothing comes up.
Mary, Hmmm, they use Mariam or Maryam, which is not in the Bible.
Give it another try. Think of Genesis and a certain ancestor of both the Israelites and the Arabs
and how it came about  ;D
Mariam and Maryam are Arabic and Hebrew versions of Mary. Maria is Mary in Spanish and Marie is Mary in French.


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: Poche on October 09, 2013, 01:21:37 AM
A splendid question! :D And there's a splendid devotion to go with it!! Thats a hint!  ;D
According to Coptic tradition it was 41.


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: Poche on October 09, 2013, 01:24:22 AM
Actually there are several Muslim names that are found in the Bible. Joseph (Yusuf) Ismael, Mary (Miriam) John ((Yunis) Abraham (Ibrihim) Zacharia, 
In addition to names from the Bible maybe you should mention one that they got from us. Abdul means servant of God. Augustine wrote very beautifully about how every Christian should be called "Servant of God." "Servus Dei"   


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: odhiambo on October 09, 2013, 03:00:13 AM
Mohammed and Mary.

Not the ones I have in mind. Does the name "Mohammed" appear in the Bible?
I have tried to check but nothing comes up.
Mary, Hmmm, they use Mariam or Maryam, which is not in the Bible.
Give it another try. Think of Genesis and a certain ancestor of both the Israelites and the Arabs
and how it came about  ;D
Mariam and Maryam are Arabic and Hebrew versions of Mary. Maria is Mary in Spanish and Marie is Mary in French.

What I had in mind was Muslim names as it is used by Muslims not their versions in other languages.
The two names I had found in the Bible are Ishmael and Abdi.
There is a man called Abdi who operates a private car hire near my home here. I use his car frequently as I do not own a car. One day I told him his name is in our Holy Book. He was surprised as was I.


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: odhiambo on October 09, 2013, 03:16:28 AM

According to Coptic tradition it was 41.

41, hmmm,   Let us talk that over, over a cuppa, shall we?  :)  :teapot:
Now, I have a great respect for tradition.
I wonder how they arrived on this number. I must try and find out.
 He seems to have received many, many times more blows than those quoted by the Copts.
Shin gave us a hint in his post as to where to find the answer which came to us straight from He who was the subject of the blows.


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: odhiambo on October 09, 2013, 03:31:35 AM
In addition to names from the Bible maybe you should mention one that they got from us. Abdul means servant of God. Augustine wrote very beautifully about how every Christian should be called "Servant of God." "Servus Dei"   

What is the Christian version of Abdul / Abdullah?  I found out  the Hebrew equivalent is Obadiah


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: Poche on October 09, 2013, 05:44:17 AM
In addition to names from the Bible maybe you should mention one that they got from us. Abdul means servant of God. Augustine wrote very beautifully about how every Christian should be called "Servant of God." "Servus Dei"  

What is the Christian version of Abdul / Abdullah?  I found out  the Hebrew equivalent is Obadiah
"Servus Dei" it is more of a title than a proper name.


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: Poche on October 09, 2013, 05:48:04 AM

According to Coptic tradition it was 41.

41, hmmm,   Let us talk that over, over a cuppa, shall we?  :)  :teapot:
Now, I have a great respect for tradition.
I wonder how they arrived on this number. I must try and find out.
 He seems to have received many, many times more blows than those quoted by the Copts.
Shin gave us a hint in his post as to where to find the answer which came to us straight from He who was the subject of the blows.
Then the worshipper prays:

  Lord, hear us and have mercy on us and forgive us our sins. Amen. [top]

  (Lord have mercy) 41 times

The reason they pray "Lord have mercy." 41 times is because that is how many times they say that Jesus was struck when he was whipped.


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: odhiambo on October 09, 2013, 06:32:23 AM
In addition to names from the Bible maybe you should mention one that they got from us. Abdul means servant of God. Augustine wrote very beautifully about how every Christian should be called "Servant of God." "Servus Dei"  

What is the Christian version of Abdul / Abdullah?  I found out  the Hebrew equivalent is Obadiah
"Servus Dei" it is more of a title than a proper name.

Servus Dei, and in school a child thus named will end up with only the first part, Servus. I have never met anyone with that name. Its meaning renders it a beautiful name.


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: Poche on October 09, 2013, 06:45:42 AM
In addition to names from the Bible maybe you should mention one that they got from us. Abdul means servant of God. Augustine wrote very beautifully about how every Christian should be called "Servant of God." "Servus Dei"  

What is the Christian version of Abdul / Abdullah?  I found out  the Hebrew equivalent is Obadiah
"Servus Dei" it is more of a title than a proper name.

Servus Dei, and in school a child thus named will end up with only the first part, Servus. I have never met anyone with that name. Its meaning renders it a beautiful name.
St Augustine said that we should all consider ourselves as servants of God and that we should address each other as "Servant of God."


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: odhiambo on October 09, 2013, 06:55:15 AM

St Augustine said that we should all consider ourselves as servants of God and that we should address each other as "Servant of God."

That sounds wonderful Poche. I think we should heed him. I am tempted to adopt the name for my signature or something. :)


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: odhiambo on October 09, 2013, 10:03:48 AM

St Augustine said that we should all consider ourselves as servants of God and that we should address each other as "Servant of God."

That sounds wonderful Poche. I think we should heed him. I am tempted to adopt the name for my signature or something. :)

On second thought, this is already a title of the pope, "Servant of the servants of God"  (servus servorum Dei).
If the pope is Servant of the servants of God, then we  would be Servants of the servants of the servants of God. :)


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: Brigid on October 09, 2013, 02:51:50 PM
Isn't that how many years He lived?  :crucifix:


That would be why it'd be an important number to remember. I've heard that the Romans scourged people over 30 lashes so I thought of this number.


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: Shin on October 09, 2013, 02:56:57 PM
Isn't that how many years He lived?  :crucifix:


That would be why it'd be an important number to remember. I've heard that the Romans scourged people over 30 lashes so I thought of this number.

Oh I had forgotten about that Brigid! Yes there was sort of traditional limit on the number of stripes a person is supposed to be given for crimes, and then I remember was it the Romans? Would not limit it.



Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: odhiambo on October 10, 2013, 05:45:32 AM
Although the Bible does not say so explicitly, it is very possible that from the time Jesus was taken into custody from the Garden of Gethsemane, Jesus was beated, lashed, punched  many times, both before and after the scourging. If there was an official limit to the scourging, The woulds that Our Lord mentioned could have been received outside of the scourging. I read somewhere that the solders took turns scourging Him and only stopped because they were tired and got bored, so they turned to the crown of thorns! :(


Title: Re: New Holy Quiz
Post by: odhiambo on February 22, 2014, 07:54:26 AM
According to Tradition, Saint Peter and Saint Paul were imprisoned together for a period in Rome before their martyrdom. What is that prison called?
Please post "pass  ;D" , if you want me to post the answers to these questions and I will do just that. ;D