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Title: The personal holiness
Post by: CyrilSebastian on November 01, 2014, 05:45:56 PM
                      In the Compendium of the Catechism of the Catholic Church, Paragraph 229 states:   
 
                      The efficiency of the sacraments does not depend upon the personal holiness of the minister.     
   
                      Please explain.


Title: Re: The personal holiness
Post by: Poche on November 03, 2014, 05:56:10 AM
That means that if the priest is validly ordained then the validity of the mass does not depend on his holiness to be valid. He could be a personally evil person when we are not around, (drunk, dissolute, selling drugs, robbing banks, several girlfriends etc...) If the correct matter and form are present then the sacraments are valid.
there was a priest of very scandalous life in the community where St Theresa of Avila lived. Jesus spoke to her from the Eucharist. He said, " My love for you is so great that I come through the hands of this sinful minister in order to be here with you."   


Title: Re: The personal holiness
Post by: odhiambo on November 03, 2014, 07:19:22 AM
It should be stressed  that the spiritual state of the priest has nothing to do with the validity of the sacrament he is officiating in, be it the Holy Eucharist, the Sacrament of penance at Confession, etc. There has been cases where following some scandal or other involving a priest, people have left the Church. I have never understood their reason for doing so. Jesus Christ founded the Church, not the priests; some of whom are saints on earth, others not so.


Title: Re: The personal holiness
Post by: CyrilSebastian on July 18, 2023, 06:12:48 PM
When a priest has been involved with a scandal, would some people have left   
the Church because their expectations of a priest have been shattered?