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Title: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Shin on April 25, 2010, 06:10:50 PM
'If you persevere in reciting the Rosary, this will be a most probable sign of your eternal salvation.'

Bl. Alan de la Roche

 :D


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Patricia on April 25, 2010, 11:24:01 PM
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'If you persevere in reciting the Rosary, this will be a most probable sign of your eternal salvation.'

Bl. Alan de la Roche

 Cheesy

God grant us that perseverance O:)

Look how many times Our Lady of Fatima repeated Herself when She appeared to Lucia, Jacinta and Francisco in 1917. Looks like She was trying to emphasize something if I'm not mistaken :D

 May 13:  "Pray the Rosary every day, in order to obtain peace for the world, and the end of the war."

 June 13: "Pray the Rosary each day."

 July 13: "I want you to come here on the 13th of next month, and to continue praying the Rosary every day in honor of Our Lady of the Rosary, in order to obtain peace for the world and      the end of the war, because only She can help you."

 August 19: "I want you to continue going to the Cova da Iria on the 13th, and to continue praying the Rosary every day."

 September 13: "Continue to say the Rosary to obtain the end of the war."

 October 13: "I am Our Lady of the Rosary. Continue to say the Rosary every day."


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Shin on April 26, 2010, 11:00:04 AM
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'If you persevere in reciting the Rosary, this will be a most probable sign of your eternal salvation.'

Bl. Alan de la Roche

 Cheesy

God grant us that perseverance O:)

Look how many times Our Lady of Fatima repeated Herself when She appeared to Lucia, Jacinta and Francisco in 1917. Looks like She was trying to emphasize something if I'm not mistaken :D

 May 13:  "Pray the Rosary every day, in order to obtain peace for the world, and the end of the war."

 June 13: "Pray the Rosary each day."

 July 13: "I want you to come here on the 13th of next month, and to continue praying the Rosary every day in honor of Our Lady of the Rosary, in order to obtain peace for the world and      the end of the war, because only She can help you."

 August 19: "I want you to continue going to the Cova da Iria on the 13th, and to continue praying the Rosary every day."

 September 13: "Continue to say the Rosary to obtain the end of the war."

 October 13: "I am Our Lady of the Rosary. Continue to say the Rosary every day."

She certainly sounds like a mother to her children, who need to listen a little harder! Because they do not realize how important it is!


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Patricia on May 11, 2010, 07:20:46 PM
"If, by the grace of God, you have already reached a high level of prayer, keep up the practice of saying the Holy Rosary if you wish to remain in that state and if you hope to grow in humility. For never will anyone who says the Rosary every day become a formal heretic or be led astray by the devil. This is a statement that I would gladly sign with my blood."

~~St. Louis de Montfort



Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Shin on May 12, 2010, 07:09:32 AM
I love his statements on those who devoutly say the rosary! It can be a very hard prayer to pray! But it has priceless rewards to encourage it!


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: martin on May 13, 2010, 04:58:32 PM
Does anyone use the Scriptural Rosary whereby a line of scripture concerning the mystery is read between each Hail Mary?
I find it a perfect way to keeop focused on the mystery and at times it feels like your almost there in the scene.


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Patricia on May 13, 2010, 05:07:04 PM
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Does anyone use the Scriptural Rosary whereby a line of scripture concerning the mystery is read between each Hail Mary?
I find it a perfect way to keeop focused on the mystery and at times it feels like your almost there in the scene.

Oh, that's a good idea to focus on the mysteries. I'll try that.  Its a common complaint that the mind tends to wander. However it would prolong the Rosary  when children are saying it, and I know my children are not too patient. :D


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Shin on May 13, 2010, 05:13:07 PM
Does anyone use the Scriptural Rosary whereby a line of scripture concerning the mystery is read between each Hail Mary?
I find it a perfect way to keeop focused on the mystery and at times it feels like your almost there in the scene.

I used to use that! I had forgotten about it.

I've been trying to use Marian devotional books like St. Louis and St. Alphonsus's to help. :)


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: martin on May 13, 2010, 05:31:59 PM
Oh, that's a good idea to focus on the mysteries. I'll try that.  Its a common complaint that the mind tends to wander. However it would prolong the Rosary  when children are saying it, and I know my children are not too patient. Cheesy

It does take a little longer but it actually feels shorter because of the fact that your attention remains focusrd and it may even bring it to life forthe kids,
it may be worth a try to see how it goes  :)


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: martin on May 13, 2010, 05:37:57 PM


I used to use that! I had forgotten about it.

I've been trying to use Marian devotional books like St. Louis and St. Alphonsus's to help. :)
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I borrowered a book from a friend once by St Alphonsus. He recommended that I use it for Rosary meditation and it was just the thing I needed at the time. I had to return the book but I memeorised some of the key teachings and still call them to mind when praying the rosary. He is an exceptional saint.


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Shin on May 13, 2010, 05:40:39 PM
Hmm.. I wonder if I could possible organize the saints' quotations for sufficient variable meditations for each of the mysteries. Might be a good website addition.


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: martin on May 13, 2010, 05:46:24 PM
Possibly even one mystery at a time and post each one when complete.
It could be time consuming work and don't think we'll complain if takes a forever :)


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Shin on May 13, 2010, 05:52:49 PM
I'm pretty sold on the idea if I can just gather enough material. It'll take time, but the rosary is a high priority in and of itself.  :D

If I can get, say, 10 different quotes applicable for each mystery, do a separate page per mystery, and clickable advancing through it, I think that'd be enough to launch it, and I would use it myself to help my meditations, which I must add I always desperately need help with.


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: martin on May 13, 2010, 06:01:23 PM
Seems like Our Lady ain't gonna let ya off the hook on this one :boxing:


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Shin on May 13, 2010, 06:03:11 PM
Heheh. Hmm. If we got fancy we could even do random images too for each, if there were sufficient. But that's unlikely for now.

Well, I am inspired enough to work on a template page and do a little quote gathering. Thanks Martin!

I am always looking for ways to make the Rosary easier on me, and when I find something I will use, I like to make it available for everyone.

So far I'm liking the look of the template!


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Shin on May 13, 2010, 06:05:08 PM
Hm.. temple and intellect.. presentation of the child Jesus in..

I could definitely get some wide ranging quotes in for these mysteries.. probably will have to too..


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Brigid on May 13, 2010, 09:01:33 PM
Hm.. temple and intellect.. presentation of the child Jesus in..

I could definitely get some wide ranging quotes in for these mysteries.. probably will have to too..



To me this mystery is definitely about obedience to Him. Of course, it could be thought of as the offering of Him to God as sacrifice.

I think this is another place the picture gallery might come in handy. While praying the Rosary I stay focussed better by looking at a beautiful picture of that mystery.


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: martin on May 14, 2010, 05:03:50 PM
Looking forward to what you come up with shin.
It's startin' to sound good already.  :)


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Patricia on June 09, 2010, 10:52:53 AM
In 1460, more than two centuries after that first communication to St. Dominic, when the Rosary devotion was in decline, Our Lady appeared to another Dominican, Alain de la Roche, to confirm her first intention. She told him to spread the Rosary devotion with the same form: 150 Hail Marys distributed in three sets of five mysteries.
After placing the Rosary around his neck, Our Lady told Fr. de la Roche:

“My son, you know perfectly the ancient devotion of my Rosary, preached and diffused by your Patriarch and my Servant Dominic and by his spiritual sons, your religious brothers. This spiritual exercise is extremely agreeable to both my Son and to me, and most useful and holy for the faithful.

“When my Servant Dominic started to preach my Rosary … the reform in the world reached such heights that it seemed that men were transformed into angelic spirits and that Angels had descended from Heaven to inhabit the earth. … No one was considered a true Christian unless he had my Rosary and prayed it. … The prestige of the holy Rosary was such that no devotion was or is more agreeable to me after the august Sacrifice of the Mass. …

“I desire, therefore, that it [the devotion of the Rosary] be restored again in the Church for the consolation of a great number of souls. You will be the one to preach my Rosary, exhorting all the faithful to pray it devoutly. … The Rosary will be a most powerful weapon against Hell; it will subdue vices, destroy sin and conquer heresies. All those who will recommend themselves to me through my Rosary will not be eternally condemned.”


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Patricia on July 02, 2010, 12:05:24 PM
I always have difficulty meditating on the fifth Joyful Mystery-- The finding of Our Lord Jesus in the Temple. What is it that you think or meditate upon while saying this mystery, besides the obvious of course, Our Lady and St. Joseph searching for their Son and finding him ?
I don't understand why He was lost for three days ? Maybe that is why it is a Mystery. :)


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Shin on July 03, 2010, 12:29:57 AM
I always have difficulty meditating on the fifth Joyful Mystery-- The finding of Our Lord Jesus in the Temple. What is it that you think or meditate upon while saying this mystery, besides the obvious of course, Our Lady and St. Joseph searching for their Son and finding him ?
I don't understand why He was lost for three days ? Maybe that is why it is a Mystery. :)

I am very poor at rosary meditation.. so I think about the simple things.. you've made me think about it more..

I think about how it's to parallel the three days and nights He is in the tomb.. And Jonah in the belly of the fish three days and nights..

'Then some of the scribes and Pharisees answered him, saying: Master we would see a sign from thee. Who answering said to them: An evil and adulterous generation seeketh a sign: and a sign shall not be given it, but the sign of Jonas the prophet. For as Jonas was in the whale's belly three days and three nights: so shall the Son of man be in the heart of the earth three days and three nights.'

Matthew 12:38-40

And so then, the finding of Him again in the Temple parallels the finding of Him again in Heaven -- He goes to the Temple without telling His parents, of His own (or rather about His Father's work) like the Ascension..

When He is away during the three days and nights after His death, He is telling the good news to the souls in the Limbo of the Fathers (the Bosom of Abraham) that they are now redeemed. . . In the Temple He is teaching the scribes there. . . So while it is painful for His parents in both cases, the pain is the cost of the good news.. Their pain is for the greater good..


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: martin on July 03, 2010, 10:06:55 AM
I always have difficulty meditating on the fifth Joyful Mystery-- The finding of Our Lord Jesus in the Temple. What is it that you think or meditate upon while saying this mystery, besides the obvious of course, Our Lady and St. Joseph searching for their Son and finding him ?
I don't understand why He was lost for three days ? Maybe that is why it is a Mystery. :)

I remember once when I was so busy at work that I neglected prayer for several days but then made a point of praying the scriptural rosary no matter how tired I felt. I started with the joyful mysteries and when I came to the fifth and read the line, "My Child why have you done this? Did You not know Your father and I were searching for You in great anxiety."
It was as if Our Lady was addressing these words to me and I felt such sorrow for what I'd done to Her by missing my prayers that if I'm ever tempted to do so now I just call this to mind and I can overcome my laziness.
We offend our dear Mother so much when we refuse to pray.


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Shin on July 03, 2010, 01:57:42 PM
I always have difficulty meditating on the fifth Joyful Mystery-- The finding of Our Lord Jesus in the Temple. What is it that you think or meditate upon while saying this mystery, besides the obvious of course, Our Lady and St. Joseph searching for their Son and finding him ?
I don't understand why He was lost for three days ? Maybe that is why it is a Mystery. :)

I remember once when I was so busy at work that I neglected prayer for several days but then made a point of praying the scriptural rosary no matter how tired I felt. I started with the joyful mysteries and when I came to the fifth and read the line, "My Child why have you done this? Did You not know Your father and I were searching for You in great anxiety."
It was as if Our Lady was addressing these words to me and I felt such sorrow for what I'd done to Her by missing my prayers that if I'm ever tempted to do so now I just call this to mind and I can overcome my laziness.
We offend our dear Mother so much when we refuse to pray.

That's very moving Martin.. the relationship between mother and children.. God help them!


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Patricia on July 03, 2010, 04:23:54 PM
Very helpful tips for meditation, Martin and Shin. Will help me a lot. Brigid, any input on the fifth Joyful Mystery?


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Brigid on July 03, 2010, 06:56:41 PM
Very helpful tips for meditation, Martin and Shin. Will help me a lot. Brigid, any input on the fifth Joyful Mystery?

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I don't understand why He was lost for three days ?


That's a hard one for any mother to understand, but I've heard it said that caravans (those which Mary and Joseph went with) separated the men from the women. Mary thought that Jesus was with Joseph and Joseph thought Jesus was with Mary (children could be with either parent). Then when they found out differently at the end of the day they were a days journey from the temple. By the time they got back it was another day, plus they looked all over the city for Him without checking the temple since they didn't think it likely at all that He was there. So that along with the typological factor that Shin and Martin spoke of would answer why.


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: martin on July 21, 2010, 08:07:43 PM
I've learnt something very special from the saints books. It's like a kind of secret they all share. It's a secret they want to share with everyone ( a shortcut if you like) to sanctity that on the face of it looks too simple to be true that I suppose many (including myself) are inclined to dismiss it and take the more difficult road that requires sometimes more human effort than reliance on grace and of course more so done out of duty than love of God.
I'm sure Our Lord does look kindly on any effort we make even if at times it be misguided while at the same time He knows how much we could profit by simple childlike obedience to what He has made known through special revelations from His Holy mother and Himself to the saints.

Not so long ago I decided to open me big ears and listen to this message and abandon certain (what I call) good practises to replace them with the better ones revealed to the saints and now I see why our dear Lord and His Blessed Mother recommended these all along and have pleaded many many times throughout history that we listen to this simple message.

The two shortcuts to sanctity are the Holy Rosary and meditation on the Passion of Our Lord.

I don't know why this is so but I can hazard a guess that obedience to Our Lord and the Blessed Virgin comes before all other good works, even the ones that we might feel would be more profitable to our souls; a bit like the story in the Old Testament where the prophet told the king to bathe seven times in the Jordan and he would be healed of his leprosy. The king felt that this was a ridiculous thing to do but was eventually persuaded to obey the prophet and so he was healed.

We can't all be priests, monks or religious. But we all can take the vow of obedience and decide to do what Our dear Lord and Our Blessed Mother have asked us to do so many times.
Disobedience seems to be the root cause of many evils in the world today. Children disobeying parents, religious disobeying their superiors, Priests disobeying their bishops, so on and so on and the deadly sin of pride is usually the root cause of disobedience.

What soldier even in peace time would refuse to obey his commander and yet we are in the most serious war of all; The outcome has eternal consequences and if we can't listen to those who have already achieved the victory then where is that going leave us?

Please God if we can all do a reverent rosary everyday, even if it means neglecting  another good devotion and meditate a little each day on the suffering of our dear Lord, we will realise the truth and the wisdom of all the saints who've recommended this to us.
There's no need here to quote Fatima, St Allen, St Dominic, St Pio, St Alphonsus or the hundreds of other saints who have given this advice as we're all aware of what they've said but I know how easy it is to miss the point and I'm only too aware of my own deafness at times

I had to write this tonight because I would have never done it if I left it one more day as I'm so aware that it could sound like preaching but I really don't mean it to come out that way. We are all equals here and one reminds the other and that's all it is, A loving reminder.
What blessings and what graces and miracles of conversion will we receive and witness by these two simple requests being heeded.
Everything we ask for and everything we need to be saints will be given us through these two means. I'll just finish with this quote from St Louis Marie De Montfort

"If you say the Rosary faithfully until death, I do assure you that, in spite of the gravity of your sins you
shall receive a never-fading crown of glory.  Even if you are on the brink of damnation, even if you have
one foot in hell, even if you have sold your soul to the devil as sorcerers do who practise black magic, and
even if you are a heretic as obstinate as a devil, sooner or later you will be converted and will amend your
life and will save your soul, if-- and mark well what I say-- if you say the Holy Rosary devoutly every day
until death for the purpose of knowing the truth and obtaining contrition and pardon for your sins."
                              - St. Louis De Montfort


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Brigid on July 21, 2010, 08:43:44 PM
Saying the Rosary everyday is needed for the scapular anyway (or the Little Office), but saying it devoutly is what is so difficult. Even with what seems like full concentration I never know if I've said it truly devoutly. :-\


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Shin on July 21, 2010, 09:03:53 PM
Very helpful tips for meditation, Martin and Shin. Will help me a lot. Brigid, any input on the fifth Joyful Mystery?

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I don't understand why He was lost for three days ?


That's a hard one for any mother to understand, but I've heard it said that caravans (those which Mary and Joseph went with) separated the men from the women. Mary thought that Jesus was with Joseph and Joseph thought Jesus was with Mary (children could be with either parent). Then when they found out differently at the end of the day they were a days journey from the temple. By the time they got back it was another day, plus they looked all over the city for Him without checking the temple since they didn't think it likely at all that He was there. So that along with the typological factor that Shin and Martin spoke of would answer why.

You know, I'm grateful you said this Brigid because this explanation makes such good sense and otherwise you might wonder at it all.

... Martin your post on the rosary really makes me want to say it regularly again, daily again.. I remember around the time of my Confirmation, and I found the Rosary Confraternity.. and I committed.. and then I couldn't maintain it.. and then later again, at a prayer group.. regularly.. but that ended.

I need to restore a daily rosary to my life. I will put the time and focus into what I need to do to be able to do it well. I need to be able to pray it better than I have in the past.

Please say a prayer for me to be able to pray the rosary well enough to be able to pray it regularly.

And this reminds me that I need to focus again on gathering more quotes to finish the website for it.  :D

I have great difficult praying the rosary.. I need to approach it more slowly and figure out how to be able to pray it in such a way that while it may still be a struggle it's interiorly rewarding enough that I don't peter out of the devotion but can sustain it.


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Patricia on June 09, 2011, 10:12:37 AM
Catechist Cured so That He Could Continue Teaching!

Brother John Aranguren, S. J. was born in Guipuzcoa, Spain, and he was working in the town of Pasto, near Bogota, Columbia, in the School of St. Francis Xavier. He was a Jesuit brother teaching Catechism to children who had been baptized Catholics but who would never have known about God if it were not for his devotion and interest in teaching them the rudiments of their faith.

One day he noticed a swelling of his tongue. It increased until he could only talk with great difficulty. It was cancer.

The cancer was first discovered at the end of 1948, and on the 30th of August 1949 he underwent the first operation in Palermo Hospital in Bogota. This first operation removed several teeth and much tissue, but the tumor recurred over a wider area. He was going to be operated on again on the 19th of September, when during the night of September 18th to 19th, a miracle took place.

In a hospital in Bogota, the brother was to have his tongue removed by Dr. Pablo Tovar Borda. He was resigned. He understood that it was either his tongue or his life, and he obeyed his Superiors. He would never speak again. He would never again explain to little children who God was...that they had a Guardian Angel...that they must fulfill ten commandments in order to keep in God's love and obtain Heave.

During the night before the operation, the brother awoke. Standing beside his bed was his mother, who had died long before this. She seemed absolutely real. She was accompanied by a radiantly beautiful Lady dressed in white, with a golden globe suspended around Her neck, and much love and light that filled him with amazement and joy. His mother explained that this was Our Lady of Fatima, and that She had come to cure him and also to give him a message.

Our Lady then reached down and touched his tongue. Instantly the cancer disappeared and Our Lady said: "Continue to teach the children Catechism, but also teach them how to pray the Rosary. Do not tell anyone about this until you have spoken to the doctor."

Still filled with the joy of the vision, the poor brother hardly realized what had happened. It was only when darkness had returned to the room that he began to move his tongue and gradually the realization of the apparition and the cure had come to him. It was true! It wasn't a dream! He could move his tongue normally! He could talk normally! He wanted to jump out of bed and run and shout and tell everyone what had happened. But he remembered the words of Our Lady: "Do not tell anyone about this until you have spoken to the doctor." And the doctor would not be there until the time of the operation to remove his tongue!

In order to keep himself from disobeying Our Lady, he remained in silent prayer until morning. The orderly came to give him the anesthesia and prepare him for the operation. He shook his head, refusing it. The orderly tried to insist, explaining: "It is either your tongue or your life, so do not hesitate."

The brother simply continued to shake his head. When the orderly tried with some force to give the anesthesia, he resisted also with force. The orderly sought reinforcements, but the brother made it clear that he would not accept the anesthesia.

When the doctor came, the men said to him in distress: "Doctor, he won't take the anesthesia. He seems to be afraid of the operation."

The doctor repeated what he had told him before: it was either his tongue or his life. But now the brother was free to speak!

"Doctor, Our Lady of Fatima appeared to me during the night and cured me. The cancer is gone!"

Of course, not believing this, the doctor began the examination. It was true. The cancer had disappeared. The brother was released from the hospital and he continued teaching Catechism in the Missions of Colombia, even into his 80s.

He also began teaching the children, with equal fervor, with equal zeal, how to pray Our Lady's Rosary!



Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Shin on June 09, 2011, 05:16:26 PM
Our Lady of Fatima, please help my dear aunt.  :crucifix:


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Brigid on June 11, 2011, 06:32:04 PM
Patricia, you were curious what I meditate on for the Fifth Mystery - since I'm a convert and didn't have Jesus in the Tabernacle or in the Eucharist before, I meditate on finding Him in the Church/church.


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Shin on June 11, 2011, 06:36:41 PM
Those are some beautiful thoughts Brigid..  :D

I love meditating on Our Lord in the Eucharist.. I think this bears the most fruit for me in many ways..

That also reminds me..

We've got about eighteen quotes so far for the Fifth Joyful Mystery (http://saintsprayers.net/The%20Holy%20Rosary%20-%20Fifth%20Joyful%20Mystery%20-%20Finding.htm) on the Holy Rosary pages, which are still quite slowly under construction as ever too.

Many from St. Anthony of Padua who goes quite deep..

The quotes aren't as coherently arranged as perhaps they might be yet.. well step by step..



Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Maria Margaret on June 13, 2011, 11:24:22 PM
I have a question for you guys about the rosary: When you pray it, do you let the crucifix dangle, or do you hold it in your hand (or place it in your lap?) I was taught to never let the crucifix dangle, because it is very disrespectful, but then when I see others pray it, they let it dangle. Even the Pope does! So I was wondering, because I'm always so worried about letting it dangle, but if it's alright, then I won't worry!  :-\

Hehe, sorry about such a silly question, but I wanted to know if anybody else was taught this!

Oh, and a meditation on the Annunciation: I was thinking about Mary's very first response to the angel, her very first question. She asked how; not why, or when, but how. She didn't ask why, because she knew that she was God's, and he could do what he liked with her; she didn't ask, and it was a perfect display of acceptance of His will, of humility and obedience. She didn't ask when because the Lord works in His own time, not ours. She only asked how. Now, why she asked how, I don't really have an explanation-but I loved thinking about the why and when!

Blessed Virgin, ora pro nobis!


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Brigid on June 14, 2011, 03:03:31 PM
I have a question for you guys about the rosary: When you pray it, do you let the crucifix dangle, or do you hold it in your hand (or place it in your lap?) I was taught to never let the crucifix dangle, because it is very disrespectful, but then when I see others pray it, they let it dangle. Even the Pope does! So I was wondering, because I'm always so worried about letting it dangle, but if it's alright, then I won't worry!  :-\

Hehe, sorry about such a silly question, but I wanted to know if anybody else was taught this!

Oh, and a meditation on the Annunciation: I was thinking about Mary's very first response to the angel, her very first question. She asked how; not why, or when, but how. She didn't ask why, because she knew that she was God's, and he could do what he liked with her; she didn't ask, and it was a perfect display of acceptance of His will, of humility and obedience. She didn't ask when because the Lord works in His own time, not ours. She only asked how. Now, why she asked how, I don't really have an explanation-but I loved thinking about the why and when!

Blessed Virgin, ora pro nobis!

As far as your question - I usually let it dangle. In none of the apparitions of Mary of which I'm familiar does she state this and I question whether letting it dangle is disrespectful. I know that when religious pray the Rosary, that I've seen, they let it dangle also.

I love your explanation of your meditation of the First Mystery. It is one of the mysteries that really show the humility that we should learn.


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Maria Margaret on June 14, 2011, 03:27:55 PM
Ah, thank you, Brigid! That's what I figured. It must just be a 'thing' around here then, to not let it dangle. The Catechists here always love to say- "Don't let it dangle!" But in every other culture, it's the norm to do so. Hm, strange.



Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: martin on June 14, 2011, 07:32:45 PM
I notice too Maria Margaret that in all the depictions of Our Lady of Lourdes the crucifix on her beads is dangling. I never heard of that custom of clutching the cross while praying the rosary but I do find myself doing that on occasions.


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Patricia on June 17, 2011, 11:32:11 AM
I like saying the 5 decade Rosary with my children every evening. To calm them down I light candles and turn off the lights and we sit before the altar. We take turns leading with the decades so that no one goes off to sleep and Lilo sits with us too!!  :lilo: :lilo: :lilo:  Only one absent is my teenager so we offer the Rosary for her . Buster is absent too because he is too disruptive and can't sit still like Lilo.    I offer this forum family's intentions  during that time.  :principalities:


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Brigid on June 17, 2011, 03:54:23 PM
 :) O:)


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: BrotherPaulMary on June 18, 2011, 09:52:19 AM
Keep up the good work.

I really wish I could help putting up rosary meditations. Father Z's forum has a list of
meditations for the various mysteries.

God Bless


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Patricia on June 18, 2011, 10:22:36 AM
My son was complaining that he couldn't contemplate on Mysteries while saying the Rosary. So before each decade I ask them for a fact about each Mystery and add my own.  For example for the last Sorrowful Mystery yesterday, my son said that He was crucified between two crosses of thieves so that He was regarded as no different from a criminal. My daughter remembered that he was buried in a borrowed tomb, that there was an ( thunderstorm? ) earthquake when Jesus died etc. 

I found this very helpful for them with at least beginning with meditation on the Mysteries.


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Patricia on June 19, 2011, 11:14:58 AM
"One who says the Rosary alone one gains the merit of one Rosary, but if he says it together with thirty other people he gains the merit of thirty Rosaries. This is the law of common prayer. How profitable, how advantageous!"

~~ St. Louis de Montfort

"When the Rosary is said in common, it is far more frightening to the devil than one said privately, because it constitutes an army that is attacking him."

~~ St. Louis de Montfort


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Patricia on June 19, 2011, 11:17:02 AM
"The Daily Rosary has had so many enemies that I regard the grace of persevering in it until death as one of the greatest favors God can give us."

~~St. Louis de Montfort


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Patricia on June 19, 2011, 11:19:03 AM
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Patricia, you were curious what I meditate on for the Fifth Mystery - since I'm a convert and didn't have Jesus in the Tabernacle or in the Eucharist before, I meditate on finding Him in the Church/church.

Thanks Brigid. This has been useful to me to meditate on finding Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament for the fifth Joyful Mystery.  O:)


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: martin on September 06, 2011, 03:23:51 PM
 “Look, Father, the Most Holy Virgin in these last times in which we live has given a new efficacy to the recitation of the Holy Rosary.  She has given this efficacy to such an extent that there is no problem, no matter how difficult it is, whether temporal or above all, spiritual, in the personal life of each one of us, of our families, of the families of the world, or of the religious communities, or even of the life of peoples and nations that cannot be solved by the Rosary.  There is no problem I tell you, no matter how difficult it is, that we cannot resolve by the prayer of the Holy Rosary.  With the Holy Rosary, we will save ourselves.  We will sanctify ourselves.  We will console Our Lord and obtain the salvation of many souls.”

Sister Lucia of Fatima:

I came across this quote in a little rosary booklet and thought I'd share it.  :)
 

 


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Patricia on May 01, 2013, 10:01:25 AM
Joyfulmother, found this thread on the Holy Rosary. We could add to this thread this month of May and encourage each other in praying the Rosary.  :)


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Shin on May 03, 2013, 05:38:57 AM
'Just as the Angelic Salutation gave glory to the Blessed Trinity, it is also the very highest praise that we can give to Mary.'

St. Louis Marie de Montfort


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: George on May 03, 2013, 11:43:51 PM
If you look diligently at Mary, there is nothing of virtue, nothing of beauty, nothing of splendor or glory which does not shine in her.
St. Jerome

Woman of silence, given to listening;
docile in the hands of the Father.
BL. Pope John Paul II


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Shin on May 09, 2013, 10:25:47 AM
'"Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee!" No creature has ever said anything that was more pleasing to me, nor will anyone ever be able to find or say to me anything that pleases me more.'

Our Lady to St. Mechtilde


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: George on May 09, 2013, 09:11:06 PM
O you, who struggle in this stormy sea, do not turn your eyes from this star. If you cry to her, you will not give up hope; if you think of her, you will not go astray.
St. Bernard of Clairvaux


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Shin on May 10, 2013, 10:06:38 AM
Our Lady is such a help when she is asked for anything at all.. ..


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Paul on May 10, 2013, 08:59:48 PM
"Some people are so foolish that they think they can go through life without the help of the Blessed Mother. Love the Madonna and pray the rosary, for her Rosary is the weapon against the evils of the world today. All graces given by God pass through the Blessed Mother."

-St. Padre Pio


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Patricia on August 18, 2013, 12:58:54 PM
When I was at my mother's place I was struck about how dedicated my family was about saying the Rosary together. As soon as my brother came back from work around 5 , he would rest for half hour and then promptly at 5:30 we would begin the family Rosary beginning with Psalm 91 and ending with bible reading, Litany to Our Lady. My children were asked to lead the decades and also read the Bible aloud. If a family member was missing they would nevertheless keep the 5:30 deadline, in order to ensure that the Rosary was said no matter what. I'm trying to keep this evening tradition alive after coming back to the States.  :thrones:


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: odhiambo on August 20, 2013, 01:07:19 PM
"The holy Rosary is a powerful weapon. Use it with confidence and you'll be amazed at the results."
St. Josemaria Escriva


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: odhiambo on August 21, 2013, 07:18:40 PM

“The Rosary is the weapon against all evil”
 St.Padre Pio


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: odhiambo on August 30, 2013, 03:29:28 PM
“You must know that when you ‘hail’ Mary, she immediately greets you! Don’t think that she is one of those rude women of whom there are so many—on the contrary, she is utterly courteous and pleasant. If you greet her, she will answer you right away and converse with you!”

Saint Bernardine of Siena


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: odhiambo on August 31, 2013, 10:20:28 AM
“Never will anyone who says his Rosary every day be led astray. This is a statement that I would gladly sign with my blood.”
Saint Louis de Montfort


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: odhiambo on September 01, 2013, 07:23:04 AM
"The Rosary is a Gospel prayer.
The orderly and gradual unfolding of the Rosary, reflects the very way in which the Word of God, mercifully entering into human affairs, brought about the Redemption"

Pope Paul VI in his encyclical Marialis Cultus n.44 (1974)


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: odhiambo on September 02, 2013, 01:39:18 PM
“Give me an army saying the Rosary and I will conquer the world.”
Pope Blessed Pius IX


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: odhiambo on September 06, 2013, 11:48:32 AM
“Never will anyone who says his Rosary every day become a formal heretic or be led astray by the devil.”
Saint Louis de Montfort


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Shin on September 06, 2013, 02:14:58 PM
'Even if you are on the brink of damnation, even if you have one foot in hell, even if you have sold your soul to the devil as sorcerers do who practice black magic, and even if you are a heretic as obstinate as a devil, sooner or later you will be converted and will amend your life and will save your soul, if—and mark well what I say—if you say the Holy Rosary devoutly every day until death for the purpose of knowing the truth and obtaining contrition and pardon for your sins.'

Saint Louis de Montfort

I think perhaps significant to this and the previous is, 'devoutly' and 'for the purpose of knowing the truth'.


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: odhiambo on September 07, 2013, 05:38:13 AM
I think perhaps significant to this and the previous is, 'devoutly' and 'for the purpose of knowing the truth'.

Well, if it is not devout and from the heart then it ceases to be "prayer", it is but mere "babble"!


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: odhiambo on September 08, 2013, 07:45:22 AM
I think perhaps significant to this and the previous is, 'devoutly' and 'for the purpose of knowing the truth'.

Well, if it is not devout and from the heart then it ceases to be "prayer", it is but mere "babble"!

On a similar note, Saint Teresa of Avila tells us:
"Vocal prayer . . . must be accompanied by reflection. A prayer in which a person is not aware of Whom he is speaking to, what he is asking, who it is who is asking and of Whom, I don't call prayer-----however much the lips may move."


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: odhiambo on September 09, 2013, 12:25:53 PM
“‘Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee!’
 No creature has ever said anything that was more pleasing to me,
nor will anyone ever be able to find or say to me anything that pleases me more.”
Our Lady to Saint Mechtilde


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Patricia on September 09, 2013, 12:46:39 PM
I tell my children not to say their Hail Marys in a rush or in a bored manner otherwise Mother Mary will be presented with wilted roses instead of fresh ones!!  :thrones:


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: odhiambo on September 09, 2013, 01:28:34 PM
I do not like praying the rosary as a group in my church; it is always so rushed I feel frustrated.


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: odhiambo on September 09, 2013, 01:33:39 PM
I tell my children not to say their Hail Marys in a rush or in a bored manner otherwise Mother Mary will be presented with wilted roses instead of fresh ones!!  :thrones:

 :)


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Shin on September 09, 2013, 01:39:15 PM
I tell my children not to say their Hail Marys in a rush or in a bored manner otherwise Mother Mary will be presented with wilted roses instead of fresh ones!!  :thrones:

Oh that's truly good advice! Deo gratias et Mariae semper Virgini!  ;D


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Brigid on September 09, 2013, 02:37:15 PM
Does "devoutly" mean, according to St. Louis de Montfort, emphasis on the "Hail Mary" or on the mystery, do you think?


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: odhiambo on September 10, 2013, 06:05:19 AM
Does "devoutly" mean, according to St. Louis de Montfort, emphasis on the "Hail Mary" or on the mystery, do you think?

I think it means to pray fervently, meaningfully.
When I am saying "Hail Mary", I am actually addressing Our Lady. I have this virtual image of her in my mind so I mean what I am saying. It is not so much as stressing particular words; just praying from the heart.


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: George on September 24, 2013, 12:11:35 AM
Love Our Lady, make others love her. Always say your rosary and say it well. Satan always tries to destroy this prayer, but he will never succeed. It is the prayer of her who triumphs over everything and everyone.
St. Padre Pio


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Shin on September 24, 2013, 01:05:35 AM
Blessed Virgin Mary of Mercy pray for us!

'All souls in hell are there because they did not pray. All the saints sanctified themselves by prayer.'

St. Alphonsus Maria de Liguori


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: odhiambo on September 24, 2013, 03:14:06 PM
“You shall obtain all you ask of me by the recitation of the Rosary.”
Our Lady to Blessed Alan de la Roche


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: odhiambo on September 25, 2013, 02:21:50 PM
“Even if you are on the brink of damnation,
 even if you have one foot in hell,
even if you have sold your soul to the devil as sorcerers do who practice black magic,
 and even if you are a heretic as obstinate as a devil,
sooner or later you will be converted and will amend your life and will save your soul,
if—and mark well what I say—if you say the Holy Rosary devoutly every day until death for the purpose of knowing the truth and obtaining contrition and pardon for your sins.”


Saint Louis de Montfort


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: George on September 25, 2013, 04:10:47 PM
My Immaculate Heart shall be your refuge and the road that shall lead you to God.
Our Lady of Fatima


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: odhiambo on October 02, 2013, 06:11:38 AM
"The Rosary is the 'weapon' for these times."
Saint Padre Pio


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Shin on October 02, 2013, 06:21:24 AM
It's the month of the Holy Rosary!  :D


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: odhiambo on October 02, 2013, 07:00:54 AM
We need it to deal with All Shabaab :(


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Shin on October 02, 2013, 07:03:18 AM
May Our Lady Queen of the Most Holy Rosary defend us!


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: odhiambo on October 03, 2013, 01:34:13 AM
"Say the Holy Rosary. Blessed be that monotony of Hail Mary's which purifies the monotony of your sins!"
St. Josemaria Escriva


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: odhiambo on October 04, 2013, 11:14:13 AM
"There is no problem, I tell you, no matter how difficult it is, that we cannot solve by the prayer of the Holy Rosary."
Sister Lucia, of the seers of Fatima


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: odhiambo on October 05, 2013, 01:38:28 AM
“There is another related in the Chronicles of St. Dominic. Near Carcassonne, where St. Dominic was preaching the Rosary, there was an unfortunate heretic who was possessed by a multitude of devils. These evil spirits to their confusion were compelled at the command of our Lady to confess many great and consoling truths concerning devotion to her. They did this so clearly and forcibly that, however weak our devotion to our Lady may be, we cannot read this authentic story containing such an unwilling tribute paid by the devils to devotion to our Lady without shedding tears of joy.”

Saint Louis Marie de Montfort, The Secret of the Rosary


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: odhiambo on October 06, 2013, 12:23:54 PM
"You always leave the Rosary for later, and you end up not saying it at all because you are sleepy. If there is no other time, say it in the street without letting anybody notice it. It will, moreover, help you to have presence of God."
St. Josemaria Escriva


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: odhiambo on October 22, 2013, 05:58:55 AM
"There is no problem, I tell you, no matter how difficult it is, that we cannot solve by the prayer of the Holy Rosary."
Sister Lucia, (of Fatima)


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: odhiambo on November 05, 2013, 05:29:02 AM
"The Rosary is the most beautiful and richest of all prayers to the Mediatrix of all grace; it is the prayer that touches most the heart of the Mother of God. Say it each day."

Pope Saint Pius X


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: odhiambo on November 20, 2013, 10:06:07 AM
"The holy Rosary is a powerful weapon. Use it with confidence and you'll be amazed at the results."
St. Josemaria Escriva


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: odhiambo on January 09, 2014, 03:31:22 AM
I love his statements on those who devoutly say the rosary! It can be a very hard prayer to pray! But it has priceless rewards to encourage it!

How is the Rosary "a very hard prayer to pray" ? is it the length? the need for meditation?


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: odhiambo on May 07, 2014, 04:25:04 AM
"The rosary is the scourge of the devil"   

Pope Adrian VI


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: odhiambo on May 08, 2014, 04:30:35 AM
“The Rosary is ‘THE WEAPON.’”
Saint Padre Pio.


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: odhiambo on July 21, 2014, 03:41:57 AM
'Blessed Alan de la Roche, who was so deeply devoted to the Blessed Virgin, had many revelations from her, and we know that he confirmed the truth of these revelations by a solemn oath. Three of them stand out with special emphasis: the first, that if people fail to say the Hail Mary, which has saved the world, out of carelessness, or because they are lukewarm, or because they hate it, this is an indication that they will probably be condemned to eternal punishment. The second truth is that those who love this divine salutation bear the very special stamp of predestination. The third is that those to whom God has given this favour of loving our Lady and of serving her out of love must take very great care to continue to love and serve her until the time when she shall have had them placed in heaven by her Son in the degree of glory which they have earned.'

St. Louis Marie de Montfort


Title: Re: Quote for the Day: Holy Rosary
Post by: Shin on July 21, 2014, 04:57:10 AM
Truly inspiring! I wish to say the Hail Mary more now!  :principalities: