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« Reply #128 on: January 28, 2011, 11:09:14 AM »
Just my guess, John of the Cross.  ?
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« Reply #129 on: January 28, 2011, 05:24:28 PM »
Quote from: susanna on January 28, 2011, 11:09:14 AM
Just my guess, John of the Cross.  ?

Very interesting guess - St. John of the Cross did have something to do with this St.
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« Reply #130 on: January 29, 2011, 09:15:39 PM »
Was it St Ignatious of Loyola?  Shocked
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« Reply #131 on: January 29, 2011, 11:51:07 PM »
that was my guess too -- is it?
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« Reply #132 on: January 30, 2011, 05:29:09 PM »
Yup, St. Ignatius of Loyola - you both got it!
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« Reply #133 on: January 31, 2011, 10:29:44 AM »
What is white martyrdom, blue martyrdom and red martyrdom?
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« Reply #134 on: January 31, 2011, 11:35:47 AM »
Red martyrdom occurs when a person sheds their blood for Jesus and willingly losses their earthly life rather than deny Him.
White martyrdom is when a person denies themselves and becomes a total offering to God, 'dying' to the world and it's allurements, but no violent death is involved for the person.
Blue martyrdom?
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« Reply #135 on: January 31, 2011, 11:52:34 AM »
ah, ok -- white martyrdom involves denying oneself all that one loves in a pilgrimage to Christ on a permanent basis, while blue martyrdom is a denying to yourself as in fasting or penitential labors but not especially a journey nor a permanent condition.  neither involve violent death.
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« Reply #136 on: January 31, 2011, 01:05:29 PM »
You are right , Rachel  big grin

St Columba speaks of three types of Martyrdom:

" It is white martyrdom for a man when he separates from everything that he loves for God, although he does not endure fasting and labor thereby.

The blue martyrdom is when through fasting and hard work they control their desires or struggle in penance and repentance.

The red martyrdom is when they endure a cross or destruction for Christ’s sake, as happened to the Apostles when they were persecuted the wicked and taught the law of God.

These three kinds of martyrdom take place in those people who repent well (blue martyrdom), who control their desires (white martyrdom) , and who shed their blood (red martyrdom) in fasting and labor for Christ’s sake." (St Columba, Cambrai Homily)

For the celts the white martyrdom was often voluntary exile from the homeland or monastery to undertake a missionary pilgrimage to a foreign land. Indeed evidence suggests that this is how Christianity reached Scotland with Ninian and Columba. There is a story that Columba settled in Iona because it was the first island he reached from which he could not see his beloved Ireland, even if he climbed to the highest point.
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« Reply #137 on: January 31, 2011, 01:12:31 PM »
Now that's an informative quote Patricia! Cheesy
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« Reply #138 on: January 31, 2011, 04:24:55 PM »
Patricia, I had been taught that white martyrdom was real persecution (for Christ) of some type. Is that like what St. Columba was saying?
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« Reply #139 on: January 31, 2011, 10:22:45 PM »
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The red martyrdom is when they endure a cross or destruction for Christ’s sake, as happened to the Apostles when they were persecuted the wicked and taught the law of God.

I'm not sure, but looks like persecution comes under red martyrdom according to St. Columba Huh?
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« Reply #140 on: January 31, 2011, 10:44:15 PM »
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The red martyrdom is when they endure a cross or destruction for Christ’s sake, as happened to the Apostles when they were persecuted the wicked and taught the law of God.

I'm not sure, but looks like persecution comes under red martyrdom according to St. Columba Huh?


Hm.... interesting.
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« Reply #141 on: February 07, 2011, 03:29:23 PM »
Communion is called ________ when received when a person is in danger of death. Fill in the blank. Cheesy
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« Reply #142 on: February 07, 2011, 03:30:30 PM »
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Communion is called ________ when received when a person is in danger of death. Fill in the blank. Cheesy

A-ha, I know this one Patricia.  Cheesy
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« Reply #143 on: February 07, 2011, 03:33:02 PM »
Don't tell yet.  Cheesy
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