Saint Thomas Aquinas

[BrotherPaulMary]

This saints "open-ness" to the truth is much lauded by liberals as an example to follow.

It is a shame they (the liberals) forget that there is no point being open to the truth
if you are already unfaithful to the truth you already know.

Two cents from a young Dominican.

God Bless

[Brigid]

This saints "open-ness" to the truth is much lauded by liberals as an example to follow.

It is a shame they (the liberals) forget that there is no point being open to the truth
if you are already unfaithful to the truth you already know.

Two cents from a young Dominican.

God Bless

Unfortunately, that seems to be the case with more than one soul (I'm certainly not a liberal, however I'm sure even I 'quibble' on the Truth sometimes). Probably part of concupiscence.

[Bailey2]

 

[Brigid]

  Now come on Bailey, we know you're not a real liberal.

[Bailey2]

It is my duty to defend against labeling.  There are catechized, un-catechized, abused and otherwise hurt, alienated, from childhood indoctrination, modeling, and socialization ignorant, and just plain lost.  There are not liberals.

I could use some words to substitute for the label traditionalist but in deference to Martin I'd rather not say.   

[Brigid]

It is my duty to defend against labeling.  There are catechized, un-catechized, abused and otherwise hurt, alienated, from childhood indoctrination, modeling, and socialization ignorant, and just plain lost.

I agree wholeheartedly with this post, and I want to say that there are some who have had many of these problems, but through grace have been able to get beyond them to Catholic orthodoxy.

[Shin]

It is my duty to defend against labeling.  There are catechized, un-catechized, abused and otherwise hurt, alienated, from childhood indoctrination, modeling, and socialization ignorant, and just plain lost.  There are not liberals.

Yes! we must be careful about this. Telling people they are bad people and your enemy can make them bad people and your enemy, when if you just told them they were good, and helped them to understand as a friend, they would've become good instead -- because they were just somewhere indefinite actually..

Of course we are all actually sinners.. No one is good but God.. but I think the sense of the above gets across.

Knowing when to use terms and when not to use them.. hmm.. I don't entirely know.  At least use prudence and consider the audiences and what will do true good. Not all things are suitable for all people.

Brother Paul Mary have you read the book 'Liberalism is a Sin?' It's available as a free etext, on Saints' Books and other places. A competing book criticizing it was condemned for being ad hominem, and it praised for not being so.

[Bailey2]

It is my duty to defend against labeling.  There are catechized, un-catechized, abused and otherwise hurt, alienated, from childhood indoctrination, modeling, and socialization ignorant, and just plain lost.

I agree wholeheartedly with this post, and I want to say that there are some who have had many of these problems, but through grace have been able to get beyond them to Catholic orthodoxy.

[Shin]

It's a merry forum tonight.  

Agh, my exclamation point won't work.

Have to uninstall that silly broken macro program.

[Martin, I pray you find a good reliable machine. Most everything nowadays except at the very bottom tier is good for all your basic tasks, one doesn't need superpowered PCs to do all the basics, email, wordprocessing, internet, multitasking.

And Windows 7 is very reliable compared to the previous operating systems.

It's only when you get to computer programming or other very processor intensive tasks that you have to spend a little more or sit and watch your coffee get cold until things are done.   ]

It was just St. Thomas Aquinas's day recently. We will have to share some quotes.

I am reading De Malo, and it is incredibly helpful, just the little bit so far I have gotten into. I wonder how I missed reading it before now.

[martin]

I could use some words to substitute for the label traditionalist but in deference to Martin I'd rather not say.   Grin

Baily you know me? Far too thick-skinned to take any label to heart. hehehe.
I remember I was labeled a heretic once on a forum while having a debate on the necessity of Baptism.
The opposing view was, that everyone goes to heaven and hell is empty.

There are so many labels out there now it's hard to keep abreast of it all. We have Trads, Liberals, Sede's, Neocons and Feeneyites to name but a view.  

Shin I didn't notice that book you mention. I must check it out too.

[Shin]

Hmm, yes, I remember digesting the meaning of each of those one after another.

There's some large sized previews of De Malo online, and some privileged access full versions, though for some reason I can't seem to find an English translation that is out of copyright. I haven't checked the World Catalog thoroughly yet, but so far no sign of one at least online. But there's still more searching to do.

[BrotherPaulMary]

I have read Liberalism is a sin a long time ago.

I think it is quite a decent book.

:p

God Bless

[Brigid]

I've been wondering about reading that book but it did sound from the title to be an ad hominim attack. 

[Bailey2]

The title alone tells me I'd have a stroke!   

[James - a humble servant]

I wasn't sure where to post, so this looked like a good spot ! 

~ For Ordering a life Wisely ~
( St. Thomas recited this daily before the image of Christ )

O merciful God, grant that I may desire ardently, search prudently,
and bring to perfect completion whatever is pleasing to You for the
praise and glory of your name.

Put my life in good order, O my God.

Grant that I may know what you require me to do.

Bestow upon me the power to accomplish Your will, as is necessary
and fitting for the salvation of my soul.

Grant to me, O Lord my God, that I may not falter in times of prosperity
or adversity, so that I may not be exalted in the former, nor dejected
in the latter.

May I not rejoice in anything unless it leads me to You; may I not be
saddened by anything unless it turns me from you.

May I desire to please no one, nor fear to displease anyone, but You.

May all transitory things, O Lord, be worthless to me and may all things
eternal be ever cherished by me.

May any joy without You be burdensome for me and may I not desire any-
thing else besides You.

May all work, O Lord, delight me when done for Your sake and may all
repose not centered in You be ever wearisome for me.

Grant unto me, my God, that I may direct my heart to You and that in my
failures I may ever feel remorse for my sins and never lose the resolve to
change.

O Lord my God, make me submissive without protest, poor without discouragement,
chaste without regret, patient without complaint, humble without posturing,
cheerful without frivolity, mature without gloom, and quick-witted without
flippancy.

O Lord my God, let me fear You without losing hope, be truthful without guile,
do good works without presumption, rebuke my neighbor without haughtiness,
and - without hypocrisy - strengthen him by word and example.

Give to me, O Lord God, a watchful heart, which no capricious thought can lure
me away from You.

Give to me a noble heart, which no unworthy desire can debase.

Give to me a resolute heart, which no evil intention can divert.

Give to me a stalwart heart, which no tribulation can overcome.

Give to me a temperate heart, which no violent passion can enslave.

Give to me, O Lord my God, understanding of You, diligence in seeking You, wisdom
in finding You, discourse ever pleasing to You, perseverance in waiting for You,
and confidence in finally embracing You.

Grant that with Your hardships I may be burdened in reparation here, that Your
benefits I may use in gratitude upon the way, that in Your joys I may delight by
glorifying You in the Kingdom of Heaven.

You Who live and reign, God, world without end.


Amen

[Shin]

Truly a well ordered life!

I think you found a good spot!

Put my life in good order, O my God.

Grant that I may know what you require me to do.

I remember reading about how important it was for you to pray to God to find where you were supposed to be, and to do your daily duties well. And I see the more as time goes by how much it is a necessary prayer!