Saint of the day and Feast days - Part 2

[odhiambo]

Thank you Shin  
Indeed I agree with you; I couldn't agree more. I have different versions of the Bible. I read mostly the Good News Bible- Catholic Edition, because it is in today's English as you pointed out and makes for easier reading and understanding. The other versions I have The Jerusalem Bible,The African Bible, Ignatius Catholic Study Bible and now the Douai-Rheims Bible online edition, are all just for reference and cross checking purposes.
I am one of those still in the infant stage of the Faith, toddling along as it were 
 My reading of the Bible is to first familiarize myself with it; know the literal aspect and then hopefully, as I grow in the Faith, the Spiritual side will be clear to me as well. This should have happened a long time ago, but better late than never I say.
 Some parts of the Bible one sees the inspired, deeper meaning immediately but not so other parts.
Shin, have you ever thought of starting a Bible Study Group here?
One was started at our parish but I feel somehow, that I am not benefiting from it. Even last week I skipped it and it is something I need if I am to really understand the Bible. There was one over at CAF but that too came to naught as the member who started it, someone who really knew his Scripture from what I could tell, had to go back to university and did not have the time needed to commit to continue with the study.

[odhiambo]

For example, just recently I was reading up on childhood discipline. It's an interesting subject. If you go to Ecclesiasticus 30:1

There's a passage that says in the original Douai:

HE that loveth his son, doth accustom him to stripes, that he may rejoice in his later end, and not grope after the doors of his neighbors.

Now 'stripes' is a direct word, meaning corporal discipline.

Go to the Challoner:

He that loveth his son, frequently chastiseth him, that he may rejoice in his latter end, and not grope after the doors of his neighbours.

Obscures it. Could be verbal. This is very important. What's the truth?

The Latin:

De filiis qui diligit filium suum adsiduat illi flagella ut laetetur in novissimo suo

Flagella means 'flagellation'. That's stripes alright.

Go to any other English translation and it gets even worse that the Challoner.

The 'grope after the doors of his neighbors' is very interesting to me as I do not entirely understand it. I have some idea of what it could mean, but I want to look up the expression. Now if the expression is not rendered clearly, then I cannot learn it, nor the particular deeper meanings attached to each word of it.

 

Very interesting. Here is what my Bible says about that topic on  which you quoted.


Bringing Up Children

A father who loves his son will whip him often, so that he can be proud of him later. If a son is disciplined, he will be of some use, and his father can boast of him to his friends. anyone who gives good guidance to his son can not only take pride in him among his friends, but he can make his enemies jealous. While the father is alive, the sight of his son makes him happy, and when he dies, he has no regrets. He is not really dead, because his son is like him. He has left someone to take vengeance on his enemies and to return the favours he owes his friends.

But anyone who spoils his son will have to bandage his wounds. His heart will stop every time he hears a shout. An untamed horse is going to be stubborn, and an undisciplined son is no different. If you pamper your child and play with him, he will be a disappointment and a source of grief. Laugh with him now, and one day you will have to cry over him, grinding your teeth in regret. Don't give him freedom while he is young, and don't overlook what he does wrong. Beat him while he is still a child, and make him respect your authority. If you don't, he will be stubborn and disobedient and cause you nothing but sorrow. So discipline your son and give him work to do, or else he will be an embarrassment to you.
Sirach (Ecclesiasticus) 30: 1-13

[odhiambo]

November 30
Today is the Memorial of
Saint Trojan
Among many other Saints

[odhiambo]

Saint Trojan, known also as Troyen
Bishop.
Trojen was the son of a Jewish father and an Arabic mother. He converted to Christianity as an adult. He was ordained a priest and later became bishop of Saintes in France.
He died in 533
His canonization was Pre -Congregation.
Saint Trojan,
pray for us!

[Shin]

Congratulations on finding that word translated literally elsewhere in English odhiambo!

I'm really pleased!

[odhiambo]

December 1

December Devotion:
The Immaculate Conception.

O Mary, conceived without sin,
pray for us who have recourse to thee.


Today is the Memorial of
Saint Eligius
Among Many other Saints

[odhiambo]

Saint Eligius
Bishop
Also known as Eligius of Noyon, Eloi, Eloy and Loy.
Reportedly one of the most popular saints of the Middle Ages.
Eligius was born in 588 in the city of Limoges in Central France. His parents, Eucherius and Terrigia, were Romans. His father was a metal smith and had his son trained to follow in his footsteps. Eligius became a leading craftsman noted for his exquisite work. He reportedly made a golden throne adorned with precious stones for King Clotaire II and, examples of his skills reportedly survived in Paris up to the time of the French Revolution. Eligius served for a time as master of the mint at Paris under King Clotaire II. He gave up this important post and entered the priesthood in 640.
He was named Bishop of Noyon. As Bishop, Eligius undertook the evangelization of the regions around Ghent and Antwerp. He founded numerous monasteries, ransomed slaves and cared for the poor.
He is the patron of metal workers.
Saint Eligius died on 1 December 660 at Noyon, France . He was buried in the cathedral of Noyon .
Canonized Pre-Congregation.
Saint Eligius,
Pray for us!

[odhiambo]

December 2
Today is the Memorial of
Saint Eusebius the Martyr
Among many other Saints

[odhiambo]

Saint Eusabius.
Martyr
Eusebius was a Roman martyr, with Adria, Aurelia, Hippolytus, Mary, Martana, Maximus, Marcellus, Neon and Paulina.
Eusebius was a priest. Marcellus was a deacon. The two were beheaded with Mary and Neon. Adria, and Hippolytus and possibly also Aurelia, were beaten to death.
Pauline died under torture, while Maximus was drowned.
All were martyred in the persecutions of Emperor Valerian. (r.253-260)
Saint Eusebius, pray for us!
Saint Adria, pray for us!
Saint Aurelia, pray for us!
Saint Hippolytus, pray for us!
Saint Mary, pray for us!
Saint Martana, pray for us!
Saint Maximus, pray for us!
Saint Marcellus, pray for us!
Saint Neon, pray for us!
Saint Paulina, pray for us!

[Shin]

Saint Eusebius, pray for us!
Saint Adria, pray for us!
Saint Aurelia, pray for us!
Saint Hippolytus, pray for us!
Saint Mary, pray for us!
Saint Martana, pray for us!
Saint Maximus, pray for us!
Saint Marcellus, pray for us!
Saint Neon, pray for us!
Saint Paulina, pray for us!

 

[odhiambo]

December 3
Today is the Memorial of
Saint Cassian of Tangiers
Among many other Saints

[odhiambo]

Saint Cassian of Tangiers
Martyr.
Cassian was a Court stenographer at the trial of Saint Marcellus the Centurion at Tangiers, a city in northern Morocco. The trial was conducted by Aurelius Agricola, deputy prefect in Tangiers. When Marcellus was condemned to death, Cassian denounced the death sentence as unjust. Throwing down his pen, he declared that he too was a Christian. He was immediately arrested, imprisoned and put to death shortly after. He is reportedly mentioned in a hymn by Saint Prudentius.
The martyrdom took place in 298 in Tangiers
He is the patron of modern stenographers.
Saint Cassian,
Pray for us!

[Shin]

St. Cassian, St. Marcellus, and St. Prudentius pray for us!

A name like Cassian it makes me think of St. John Cassian and all the famous writing for monks he handed down to us.

[odhiambo]

St. Cassian, St. Marcellus, and St. Prudentius pray for us!

A name like Cassian it makes me think of St. John Cassian and all the famous writing for monks he handed down to us.

They were  just namesakes, about a century apart.

[Shin]

I wonder what Cassian is derived from? It sounds like Cassia which isn't that a spice?

Cinnamon!

[odhiambo]

I wonder what Cassian is derived from? It sounds like Cassia which isn't that a spice?

Cinnamon!

Well, Cassian is a boy's name whereas Cassia is a girl's name. What a difference just one letter can make.
I have seven parts and I am male.
Chop off an n and I am female