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« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2012, 07:52:19 AM »

'The desire for peace is certainly harbored in every breast, and there is no one who does not ardently invoke it. But to want peace without God is an absurdity, seeing that where God is absent thence too justice flies, and when justice is taken away it is vain to cherish the hope of peace. "Peace is the work of justice" (Is. xxii., 17).

There are many, We are well aware, who, in their yearning for peace, that is for the tranquility of order, band themselves into societies and parties, which they style parties of order. Hope and labor lost. For there is but one party of order capable of restoring peace in the midst of all this turmoil, and that is the party of God.

It is this party, therefore, that we must advance, and to it attract as many as possible, if we are really urged by the love of peace.'

Pope St. Pius X
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« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2012, 08:38:41 AM »

“Show me the icons that you venerate, that I may be able to understand your faith.”
 Saint John of Damascene
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« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2012, 08:42:34 AM »

There's so much to that one odhiambo!
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« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2012, 08:53:24 AM »

There's so much to that one odhiambo!


Is there perhaps a deeper meaning to the quote that I have missed?
I know he was a great defender of the use of icons in the church.
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« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2012, 08:55:18 AM »

Take the quote a little farther -- any 'icons', and 'veneration' in a general sense. I.E. not just actual 'icons'..

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« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2012, 09:03:58 AM »

Take the quote a little farther -- any 'icons', and 'veneration' in a general sense. I.E. not just actual 'icons'..
 Cheesy

Here we go then:
 If I venerate money, for instance, you will know straight away I am of this world, is that it?
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« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2012, 09:07:17 AM »

Haha, that's it exactly.  Cheesy

What people worship tells you their religion.

If you sit in front of a TV all day in veneration, now we know what your idol is!

And then there are even people called that.. And the whys thereof you venerate them informs a person about you.
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« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2012, 11:16:52 PM »

'We cannot be saved without a struggle, for this life is a continual warfare. But be of good courage, do not be disheartened or troubled about your faults, but always try to draw from them a love of abjection, which must never for a moment be absent from your heart.'

'We must never be discouraged or give way to anxiety. . . but ever have recourse to the adorable Heart of Jesus.'

St. Margaret Mary Alacoque
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« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2012, 11:24:26 PM »

That sounds like something St. Claude would have said to her!

'There is a breaking of the heart which is gentle and makes it deeply penitent, and there is a breaking which is violent and harmful, shattering it completely.'

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« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2012, 04:00:12 AM »

'There is a breaking of the heart which is gentle and makes it deeply penitent, and there is a breaking which is violent and harmful, shattering it completely.'
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This is some quote Shin!
Let me take it slowly now so I can appreciate it.
'There is a breaking of the heart which is gentle and makes it deeply penitent,"
This is in like penitance for my sin, but with a firm belief and hope that God has forgiven me and all will go well with my soul were I to die at that moment.  Though sorry for my sins, I am at peace with myself.
Then" there is a breaking which is violent and harmful, shattering it completely."
This now is going overboard with the sorrow for my sin. I am so devastated that I cannot see how God can possibly forgive me. I refuse to accept that I am forgiven. In my sorrow, I end up in despair, a terrible sin against the virtue of Hope. I am agitated, anxious.
This situation has caused damage to my heart, "shatterred it completely"  Sad
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« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2012, 04:12:24 PM »

That's really thought provoking odhiambo!

A lot of insight!
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« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2012, 04:16:38 PM »

'Parents often prefer to see their children damned with themselves rather than to be saved away from them.'

St. Alphonsus Maria de Liguori

Saint Augusta of Treviso pray for us!
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« Reply #29 on: March 26, 2012, 05:26:00 PM »

"My political views are those of the Lord's prayer."   St. John Bosco
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« Reply #30 on: March 26, 2012, 06:42:58 PM »

"My political views are those of the Lord's prayer."   St. John Bosco

St. John Bosco certainly knew about politics.
"Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven." as opposed to "My will be done on earth and forget about God's law."That's precisely what's wrong with the politics today.

This is an excellent thread. Good thinking Baily. Inspired I would say.  Cheesy
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« Reply #31 on: March 27, 2012, 06:23:13 AM »

Another that I have come across by Saint John Bosco and  is pertinant is:

"A Catholic priest has no politics but the Gospel and fears no recriminations."
Don Bosco
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« Reply #32 on: March 27, 2012, 08:59:14 AM »

If you read the story of Don Bosco's life he was under constant thread because of politics, because he lived in very anti-clerical and anti-papal times there were accusations and attempts to set him up, and attempts on his life.

When people in government power saw how he was successful with the children they did not want to see these children becoming friends of the Church.

Nowadays they would have done things more efficiently, and simply condemned Don Bosco's oratories for code violations or for teaching hate speech, and then taken them over. That is the standard method of all anti-Catholic movements, get the Church out of charity and replace the Church's charities with the government, so that the people feel obliged and grateful to the government rather than the Church.
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« Reply #33 on: March 27, 2012, 09:17:03 AM »

'How happy is the soul who detaches herself from all pleasure, from all sentiment, from all self-opinionatedness! You will realize this happiness if you put all your satisfaction in the cross of Jesus; that is, if you die on the cross of your Saviour to all that is not God.'

St. Paul of the Cross
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