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« Reply #1717 on: February 21, 2015, 03:36:27 AM »

'I the Lord, and there is none other, that form light, and Create darkness, make peace, and Create evil: I the Lord that do all these things.

Isaias 45:7
Original Doaui

'Formans lucem et creans tenebras, faciens pacem et creans malum: ego Dominus faciens omnia haec.'

Vulgate

The weak footnote doesn't really excuse such a weak translation of the passage. This is why we should go to the Vulgate and the original Douai.


Can the original Douai be found online, Shin?  If so, I'd like to read it.  I have the newer Bishop Challoner version.


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« Reply #1718 on: February 21, 2015, 06:07:54 AM »

Yes the true and Original Douai is provided by Saints' Books for free download.

These are the original facsimile PDF files.

We have an ongoing project to provide it as an entire website in searchable text, rather than only as PDFs.  It's taking time and labor, been at it for over a year and a half now. When it is finished, God willing, it will be a searchable parallel Original Douai and Vulgate together. Thus the most literal English translation and the Vulgate to refer to as the source will finally be provided together.

Please pray for the project and the folks who work on it.

Folks who want to have printed hard or softcover versions, can get various versions of it through online-single print services elsewhere.

Nothing is sold through these websites, only donations are accepted.
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« Reply #1719 on: February 21, 2015, 08:44:16 AM »

Thanks, Shin!  I certainly will pray for the success of your project.  God bless you!
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« Reply #1720 on: February 21, 2015, 09:48:35 AM »

We add our prayers of gratitude and support for this wonderful project.
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« Reply #1721 on: February 22, 2015, 12:02:28 PM »

Very glad to hear folks appreciate the work.

It certainly is a beautiful project. It is very hard, but a time will come when all we need are final proofreaders, God willing. Then it will become available for folks to easily read.


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« Reply #1722 on: February 23, 2015, 02:33:11 AM »

Poor human reason, when it trusts in itself, substitutes the strangest absurdities for the highest divine concepts.

St. John Chrysostom
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« Reply #1723 on: February 23, 2015, 09:45:12 AM »

A quote that has much application today amongst those who think of themselves as apologists for the Catholic Faith.
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« Reply #1724 on: February 23, 2015, 12:39:06 PM »

Poor human reason, when it trusts in itself, substitutes the strangest absurdities for the highest divine concepts.

St. John Chrysostom

Reason must be enlightened by faith.  Reason and faith must work together, not one without the other.  Reason on its own without faith to enlighten it leads to rationalism, materialism, and a host of other bad -isms. 
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« Reply #1725 on: February 23, 2015, 02:10:00 PM »

'It was necessary for man's salvation that there should be a knowledge revealed by God besides philosophical science built up by human reason. Firstly, indeed, because man is directed to God, as to an end that surpasses the grasp of his reason: "The eye hath not seen, O God, besides Thee, what things Thou hast prepared for them that wait for Thee" (Isaiah 64:4). But the end must first be known by men who are to direct their thoughts and actions to the end. Hence it was necessary for the salvation of man that certain truths which exceed human reason should be made known to him by divine revelation. Even as regards those truths about God which human reason could have discovered, it was necessary that man should be taught by a divine revelation; because the truth about God such as reason could discover, would only be known by a few, and that after a long time, and with the admixture of many errors. Whereas man's whole salvation, which is in God, depends upon the knowledge of this truth. Therefore, in order that the salvation of men might be brought about more fitly and more surely, it was necessary that they should be taught divine truths by divine revelation.'

St. Thomas Aquinas
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« Reply #1726 on: February 23, 2015, 02:40:25 PM »

              The centurion said, "For I too am a person subject to authority, with soldiers subject   
              to me. And I say to one, 'Go,' and he goes; and to another, 'Come here,' and he comes;     
              and to my slave, 'Do this,' and he does it."   
             When Jesus heard this he was amazed at him and, turning, said to the crowd following   
             him, "I tell you, not even in Israel have I found such faith."
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« Reply #1727 on: February 23, 2015, 11:24:50 PM »

Amen, sister! cross prayer :principalities:
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« Reply #1728 on: February 24, 2015, 02:34:28 PM »

'I too am a person subject to authority'.

In Matthew 27:54:

'And the Centurion and they that were with him watching JESUS, having seen the earthquake and the things that were done, were sore afraid, saying: Indeed this was the Son of God.'
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« Reply #1729 on: February 24, 2015, 09:25:02 PM »

'It is a great favour which God grants to that soul that is in a state of grace to take it from this world, where, at any time, it may become changed, and may lose the friendship of God!'

St. Alphonsus Maria de Liguori

'He was taken away lest wickedness should alter his understanding.'

Wisdom 4:2
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« Reply #1730 on: February 26, 2015, 11:40:06 PM »

'I cannot but admire the goodness and liberality of the Sacred Heart towards you. Our Lord seems to take pleasure in unfolding all Its treasures for your benefit.'

St. Margaret Mary Alacoque
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« Reply #1731 on: February 28, 2015, 09:31:11 AM »

'What a grace, to be not only under the cross, but on the cross, and at least a little crucified with our Lord!  Have good courage, make a virtue of necessity, and lose not an opportunity of showing your love for God in the midst of tribulation, as He in the midst of thorns has shown His love for you.'

St. Francis de Sales
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« Reply #1732 on: February 28, 2015, 03:35:59 PM »

                   I see him, though not now;     
                   I behold him, though not now;     
                  A star shall advance from Jacob,       
                   and a staff shall rise from Israel,     
 
                   The Book of Numbers, Chapter 24 Verse 17
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« Reply #1733 on: February 28, 2015, 05:32:18 PM »

Here is a challenging question for folks, what meanings do a staff and a rod have?

What are the deeper meanings behind each portion of Psalm 22?

Psalm 22

OUR Lord ruleth me, and nothing shall be wanting to me: in place of pasture there he hath placed me.
Upon the water of refection he hath brought me up: he hath converted my soul.
He hath conducted me upon the paths of justice, for his name.
For, although I shall walk in the midst of the shadow of death, I will not fear evils: because thou art with me.
Thy rod and thy staff: they have comforted me.
Thou hast prepared in my sight a table, against them; that trouble me.
Thou hast fatted my head with oil: and my chalice inebriating how goodly is it!
And thy mercy shall follow me all the days of my life:
And that I may dwell in the house of our Lord, in longitude of days.
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