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« on: May 19, 2013, 08:24:46 PM »

Anyone practice it?  Cheesy
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« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2013, 10:02:44 PM »

I'm not exactly clear on what the difference is between lectio divina and just reading the Bible prayerfully. No one has been able to explain it in a way that makes sense to me.
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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2013, 04:05:17 PM »

I try.  I linger over passages, and a word or sentence(s) always seem to stand out even if just a little.  So I try to think on them for a while.  I like to use the readings from my Latin Mass missal for the day, but that doesn't always work if there's no feast day.  Then I use the Bible.   Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2013, 01:05:03 AM »

I would like to slow down in my reading and take more time with prayer over passages. I think it takes more self control to do that though!
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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2013, 11:21:37 PM »

I've been trying to practice it, but I'm so easily distracted.  I've purchased a Haydock Bible and I must admit this has helped tremendously, since I can now read the commentary after each verse.  This has helped me better understand what it is I'm reading and it has slowed down how fast I get through each chapter Grin


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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2013, 01:40:56 PM »

I'm glad folks are saying so, this reminder is helping me to slow down.

By the way I love the picture you chose Christopher!

Jesus, Mary, and Joseph, pray for us..
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« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2013, 02:32:43 AM »

I teach it to the children when they are early for mass.
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« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2013, 11:13:41 PM »

Good to hear!  Cheesy

Few children have such a blessing!
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« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2022, 05:05:59 PM »

Please define Lectio Divina.
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« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2022, 06:23:39 PM »

Please define Lectio Divina.
Lectio Divina is fourfold process:
Lectio: Reading of a passage or single verse of Sacred Scripture atleast two times. The shorter the verse the more times it should be read, to aid memorization and increase comprehension.
Meditatio: Meditation is the verbal repeating of the verse or passage or a word or part of a verse outloud or mentally. It is also a period of time where the mind attempts to penetrate the kernel of the Word using reason and imagination in order to gain insight and/or memorize the verse, word or passage. The process of meditation is akin to the process of harrowing of field in order to break up the hardness of one's heart with the plow of the Word and the Oxen of the Prophets and Apostles.
Oratio: Prayer is the third step that takes up the verse, word or passage as a form of prayer between the reader and the God who caused the Word to be written with the Word acting as a form of mediator between the reader and God. The Spirit often inspires the reader to ascend to prayer using the Sacred Scripture as a foundation for the sentiments of the heart. The transition to prayer is the most significant and is in a sense the sowing of the Word into the soul.
Contemplatio: Contemplation is the place where reasoning ceases and love triumphs, usually silent, the reader become prayer, sits at the foot of the Lord and waits upon His Word to speak to them. The excited movements of love which arise from the soul spring up as flowers and fruit from the well planted Word of God. It is in Contemplation that we reap the harvest of mediation and prayer. And if the time is not ripe for harvest then the soul should seek to water the seed with the dew of grace and the wellspring of contrition. Sin can cloud the Sun of Righteousness from shining on the soul but the Spirit can easily scatter the clouds and make Radiance of God present upon the field of the soul.
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« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2022, 11:21:08 AM »

Thank you Benedict !

I'm in formation as a postulant for a local TOP fraternity (Lay Dominican) and Lectio Divina has been reccomnded by my formation director. Your post is very helpful !

And thank you Shin for starting this thread !


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« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2022, 11:30:46 AM »

It is good to see you Charles! Cheesy
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« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2022, 02:00:40 PM »

It is good to see you Charles! Cheesy

You as well friend !
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« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2022, 04:37:53 PM »

This thread has not been used in over eight years. If I had not inqiuired for the definition of Lectio Divina,   
we might not have heard from Charles.   
This is an example that a person can learn information from older topics.
   
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« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2022, 12:43:47 AM »

Thank you Benedict !

I'm in formation as a postulant for a local TOP fraternity (Lay Dominican) and Lectio Divina has been reccomnded by my formation director. Your post is very helpful
I am glad to be of service. Here are some other posts regarding Lectio Divina
May 15, 2021
The most reliable form of meditative practice is lectio divina, reading a verse or section of Scripture aloud, meditating on it verbally: first repeating words or sentences or ideas that stand out as important and considering how these verses relate to you. Pondering how they find fulfillment in relation to Christ and the life of grace and then praying based upon the language that you picked out in the meditative portion and praying either outloud, or silently. Your pray should be unceasing for the portion of this time until you feel that you can say no more. Then the period of silent reflection upon the Creed, the Mystery of Creation pertaining to the Father, the Mystery of Redemption pertaining to the Son and the Mystery of Sanctification relating to the Holy Spirit, reflecting on the truths of the Christian faith, how knowledge of these truths finds its fruition in prayer and then subsequently in action. Then worship of God for His perfections, His miracles, His deeds and actions and essence are altogether good and righteous. Silent contemplation is the final part, where the soul lingers in God's presence, this is amplified when the soul is in a state of grace, where mutual friendship abides in the soul with God. The listening attentively in silence is perhaps the termination of the experience before a new verse or passage is chosen and the cycle is repeated. In this way you intentionally may join into the prayers and intentions of the Church and participate in the ancient conversation with God through Scripture and prayer.
When memorization is made the purpose of meditation, the process can then become automatic, Scripture can be recalled, spoken, reflected, prayed over, God's saving acts are recalled and the mystery of salvation is once more unfolded within the mind.
Asceticism and discipline help promote mystical experience and prayers should be made requesting God's aid in prayer, putting humility at the for front of the soul's prayers. Reflection upon the marvelous task of meditating in the heart over the Immeasurable One, is a task best reserved for a calm and stable mind. The purpose of this process is to desire God's grace and mercy and love, with ever increasing fervor and superabundant desire.
The satisfaction of all holy desires is found within the Sacraments and thus most especially are contemplations of the Sacred Mysteries instituted for the salvation of the world.
Realizing one's union with Christ in baptism and one's strength in confirmation is a amazing consequence of fruitful contemplation of the Sacraments.

May 19th 2021
Meditation is just one part of the wheel. The wheel is meant to turn, from reading of the Sacred Scripture to lifting your mind to heavenly things, to praying for God's graces, to contemplation of the Sacred Mysteries. If you are switching between methods it is because you lack stability of resolve. In meditation, I believe in using a framework for exegesis. For me, meditation is an exegetical excercise that is meant to cast light upon the obscurity of Sacred Scripture. In essence, the goal of meditation is to learn and to recall. Prayer then is like gathering a bundle of myrrh and offering it to God. For we are the fragrance of Christ. Then the contemplation, either acquired or infused is begun. The prayer of union and simplicity is found in contemplation where as the discursive prayer is found in meditation. Their must be a skopos or target for your meditation. The center of the wheel is Christ, all of our actions of reading, meditating, praying and contemplating should be done in the Light of Christ. It is the Light of Christ that glorifies the soul and the mind with grace and fills the heart with the sweetness of the Holy Spirit. Pope Francis wisely said "We must thus always remember that the method is a path, not a goal: any method of prayer, if it is to be Christian, is part of that Sequela Christi that is the essence of our faith. The methods of meditation are paths to travel in order to arrive at the encounter with Jesus, but if you stop on the road, and just look at the path, you will never find Jesus."

My advice, start with the Psalms. Read a psalm. Meditate on how it connects to Christ and life in the Spirit. Pray using verses from the Psalm. Then contemplate in silence. The act of contemplation can take place at first verbally but it always will result in silent reception of spiritual knowledge. Stillness is a great aid in all this. A calm heart and a sharp mind and a ready memory are very helpful aids in the processes.
The idea is after you finish the silent portion of contemplation, you find another psalm and begin the process again. This method promotes learning and building connections between Scripture and the teachings of Christ, the Apostles and the Church.

Example Psalm 13
How long, O Lord? Will you forget me forever?
How long will you hide your face from me?
How long must I bear grief in my soul?
How long must I have sorrow in my heart all day long?
How long shall my enemy prevail over me?
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Look, and answer me, O Lord my God!
Give light to my eyes lest I fall asleep in death!
Lest my enemy say "I have prevailed over him."
Lest my foes rejoice when they see me fall.
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As for me, I trust in Thy merciful love!
Let my heart rejoice in Thy salvation!
I will sing to the Lord who has been bountiful with me.

Meditation
Christ upon the Cross, had to wait in excruciating pain in solidarity with sinners, Himself being the Elect of the elect, but having taken upon Himself the sin of the world, He bore the curse of the reprobate.
Jesus suffered, and in His agony He cried out "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me." This is very much akin to being "forgotten" by God.
The face of God signifies His favor, whomsoever His face shines upon, His favor falls.
To feel that God is hiding His face, is a common consequence of sin which alienates mankind from God.
Mankind had once beheld God face to face but with the advent of sin, God's face was concealed in mystery.
Moses was a holy prophet, privileged to look upon God with unveiled face, speaking face to face with God as a man does with His friend.
Jesus offers us this divine friendship and we may behold His face in the Most Blessed Sacrament of the altar.
Sinners with a living conscience bear grief for all of their sins, as the prophet says "My sin is always before me."
Christ bore our grief and shame upon the cross and even still He loves us and was more than willing to die to set us free.
Sorrow in one's heart over sin is considered godly sorrow if it leads to repentance, otherwise it is a worldly sorrow which leads to death.
Sorrow for sin is an important part of desolation and longing for joy only finds its true fulfillment in reconciliation with God, especially through the Sacrament of Confession.
The enemy is victorious over us when we engage in mortal sin and cut ourselves off, through willful sin. The state of a soul in mortal sin is also in danger of demonic assaults.
The demons cannot harm a soul in a state of grace but without God's protective grace, there is nothing a soul can do to combat demonic forces which are more powerful than a human alone.
This first portion of the psalm reflects the soul in a state of distress, suffering, sadness, and ultimately, mortal sin.
Jesus Christ, who never sinned, took upon Himself our burdens in order to lift them from us.
Jesus Christ, who is greater than all men, loves each and every one of us, even those in mortal sin and He calls us to conversion, to repentance and ultimately to communion.
The prophet demands that God look upon him, because without God's "looking" the soul will stay in a state of mortal sin.
But if God should cast so much as a look of pity upon that poor soul, grace would flood their heart and darkness could not stand in the sight of God.
The prophet demands that God answer his prayers, because trusting that God has heard all prayers, the prophet expects God who is justice, to vindicate his cause, to justify his soul and to save his life.
This boldness is not to be confused with anger. The prophet has not grown angry with God, but has grown bold in the Spirit, "Hear O God and answer me O Lord!" This is a prayer of trust and dedication.
The prophet has committed his trust to the One True God and in Him alone does He place his hope.
The prophet beseeches the Lord to give "light to his eyes", this is both a request of divine enlightenment and a humble request to preserve his life, because the "light of the eyes" is both a name for the soul and spiritual vision.
To fall asleep in death, is the state of a soul in mortal sin, who has fallen asleep not in Christ but in death. For the wages of sin is death.
The prophet then requests that God confound the enemy, the devil, whom the prophet acknowledges, he cannot defeat alone.
For by the devil had caused the soul to enter into mortal sin and alienation from God, but the soul beseeches God "do not let the devil have victory over my soul!"
The prophet does not wish to be defeated by his enemy, and neither should the soul desire to be defeated by sin.
Jesus Christ our Great High Priest, can provide all necessary graces to overcome sin, provided that we no longer are attached to sin.
For the Holy Spirit, when He comes, is like a consuming fire, and He will set your soul on fire and you will burn with intense love and be filled with light, provided that you give up all attachment to sin and desire only to God's will.
Otherwise, the smoke of your torment will extinguish the Spirit and you will burn in agony and you will be blinded, unable to see the dazzling display of the Spirit working within you.
To relinquish all attachment to sin is a great grace, and that is why the prophet in another psalm says "preserve your servant from presumptuous sin." and "cleanse me from my secret sin"
Finally, the prophet turns his mind, no longer upon his troubles, no longer upon his sorrow, no longer upon his desolation, but upon his God.
For the God of the holy prophets is Merciful Love, whose praises never end.
The prophet in another psalm says "His mercy endures forever" and "His lovingkindness endures forever"
Jesus Christ, the Word of God, is that merciful love in whom the prophet trusts.
The soul in a state of consolation, having received the good graces of God, realizes that it is a curse to trust only in oneself or in men, but that all trust must belong to God who alone is Trustworthy.
The prophets heart, flooded with good thoughts, rejoices in God's salvation, which is unending bliss, unchanging love, perfect peace, unfailing satisfaction, immortal glorification, and things beyond the realm of speech and words which the Apostle says no man can comprehend.
The prophet concludes his lamentation by saying "I shall sing to the Lord who has dealt bountifully with me!"
Indeed it is the singing of the elect that differentiates them from among the reprobate, as Saint Hildegard says the devil cannot sing.
The song of the joyful heart is a music which pleases the Lord and merits a reward, for in great trial, comes great merit and with great testing comes great reward.
Prayer
I will wait upon the Lord, in His name I will trust.
I shall wait for His mercy. I shall wait for His help.
I long for the day of His coming. I shall never forget all that He has done for me.
O Lord, you have promised that you will not forget the least of your children.
Behold, here I am, a poor sinful child. Do not delay to bring aid to me.
Do not hide the beauty of Thy countenance from me O Lord God of Hosts!
Let Thy goodness shine upon me! Let Thy name be upon me!
For I love Thy ways and all Thy paths lead to heaven!
O Most Merciful God, O Most Tender God, O Most Loving God!
Increase the compunction in my heart that I may despise my sins and love Thy mercy!
Strip my soul of all attachments that cause me ungodly sorrow!
Rid me of all unnecessary things and utterly take away all evil desires from my heart!
I love Thee O God and I desire to do Thy will!
Never permit me to be separated from Thee by the least sins!
O my God I repent of all my sins and desire to live in Thee, my fortress and for Thee, my master, and through Thee, my life.
For Thy might shall prevail over the enemy O Almighty God! For the heavens and the earth break forth into terror, rending and melting at the sight of Thy wrath!
O Lord, I would die of fear of Thee, but Thou has comforted my soul with the help of Thy grace, that I may love Thee and not perish from fear.
Look upon the face of Thy servant O God, for I am as Thy child, wayward and lost, in darkness and weeping!
Hear my prayer O Most High, condescend Thy divine majesty to the smallness of my life and fill me with Thy unfailing joy!
In Thee O God is the True Light, send forth Thy Word into my heart that I may ever contemplate Thy goodness and behold Thy unspeakable countenance!
For Thou O God art the desire of angels and the fulfillment of Saints and all things rightly give Thee praise!
If I die, let me rest in Thee and if I live, let me not be dead in sin but alive in Thee O God!
Let Thy Good Spirit come to me and rest upon me that I may rest in Him.
Drive far from me all evil foes and wicked spirits and utterly put them to shame!
For I trust O God that Thou shall punish with unquenchable flame and unending torment all those that oppose Thee!
For with Thee O God is Dread and Majesty and with Thee O God is Justice and Goodness!
Therefore hoping in Thy goodness and trusting in Thy mercy I beg pardon for my sins, and request all necessary graces to live a holy Christian life.
Seeing as I am a weak and sinful soul, do Thou preserve me in Thy good graces and do not fail to raise me up if I should fall through my own fault.
Do not abandon me O God of Glory! For I shall ever trust in Thee!
For Thy merciful love gives me comfort and Thy name is my hope.
Fill my heart with the joy of Thy salvation and put within me the certainty of hope!
O Lord fill my lips with song and my heart with a hymn that I may praise Thee forever and ever!
Great is the Lord and greatly to be praised His mercy endures forever!
Halleluyah!
Amen

May 30th 2021
Saint Gregory the Great speaks about the process of Lectio Divina as a wheel in his homilies on the Prophet Ezekiel. The basic idea is that as the wheel turns, your mind is raised higher. From earthly things to heavenly things.

"And when the living creatures went, the wheels also went together by them: and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels also were lifted up with them." Ezekiel 1:19
Saint Gregory the Great Homilies on Ezekiel
The living creature go when the Saints understand from Holy Writ how to lead a moral life. Truly the living creatures are lifted up from the earth when the Saint raise themselves in contemplation. And because each of the Saints advances in Holy Writ as far as this same Holy Writ progresses in them, it is rightly said: "When the living creatures went, the wheels went together by them and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were also lifted up with them." Ezekiel 1:19 because the divine words grow with the reader, for the deeper each understands them the deeper they penetrate into the Saints. Therefore the wheels would not be lifted up if the living creatures were not raised up, because if the minds of the readers have not attained to the heights, the Divine Logos, as if in the depths, their meaning lay not understood. For when the saying of Holy Writ (if the perception of divine speech be dull) do not arouse the mind of the reader, whoever they are, and in their contemplation their intellect does not shine forth with light, the wheel is idle and on the earth because the living creature goes, ie seeks the rules to lead a good life, and through the footsteps of his heart discovers how to plot the course of good works, the wheel keeps pace with him, because as you find increase in divine speech you will yourself have progressed within it. If indeed a winged creature has stretched himself in contemplation the wheels are forthwith lifted from the earth, because you understand that things are not earthly which you previously believed to be spoken in Holy Writ according to earthly custom. And it happens that you perceive the words of Holy Writ to be heavenly, if kindled through the grace of contemplation, you are suspended on heavenly things. And the wonderful and ineffable virtue of Holy Writ is recognized when the mind of the reader is pervaded by divine love. Because therefore the living creature rises to the heights the wheel revolves. Then follows: "Whithersoever the spirit went, thither as the spirit went the wheels also were lifted up withal and followed it."
For whither the spirit of the reader aims, thither divine words too are lifted, because if you seek something high by seeing and feeling, these same sacred things grow with you, and ascend with you to the heights. It is well said then of these same wheels: "and followed it." For the reader's spirit, if they there seek moral or historical understanding, the perception of moral history follows them. If they seek figurative knowledge, allusive speech is soon recognized. If contemplative, the wheels forth almost take wing and are suspended in the air, because heavenly understanding of Holy Writ is laid bare in words. "Whithersoever the spirit went, thither as the spirit went the wheels also were lifted up withal and followed it." Ezekiel 1:20 Then the wheels follow the spirit because the words of Holy Writ, as has often been said already, grow through the intellect according to the perception of the reader.


Seeking the guidance or counsel of the Holy Spirit regarding the Divine Logos which reveals the Father is a suitable method of access into the Trinity. The other way would be to approach Jesus as the Door and ask Him to pray the Father to send you the Spirit of Truth that you may be lead into all Truth and have the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit dwell within you by invoking them and beseeching their presence earnestly with a humble and pure heart, free from distractions and attentive to the Sacred Scripture.
The written word of God is an excellent means of communicating with the uncreated Word of God, our Lord Jesus Christ. The life of communion with the All Holy Undivided Trinity is accomplished through grace and the divine indwelling by which you are made a temple of the Holy Spirit, where the Great High Priest, our Lord Jesus Christ offers fragrant prayers upon the altar of your heart and the love of the Father is poured into you like dew from heaven that you may be cleansed and sanctified as a holy temple dedicated to God, a house of prayer not made with hands.

The Life of the Divine Trinity is best understood through indwelling, inspiration and inflowing and infusion. God, the Holy Trinity dwells within you to the degree that you prepare yourself through kenosis or self-emptying. Examination of conscience, prayers for contrition and desire of grace and prayers for inspiration and understanding and prayers for inflowing of divine love and infusion of virtues and holy contemplation are good practices.
Prayer is broken into two forms: mystical or God-inspired and acquired or discursive prayer that is intellectually driven. The integration of Scripture into one's life is the process of reading, it is this process of meditation that inscribes the Sacred Word upon the tablet of the heart, where the finger of the Holy Spirit inspires living devotion and gives ample means to fulfill what God has put into your heart to accomplish. The Life, that is Christ, which abides in the soul is the fountain of all meditation, contemplation and satisfaction.
While we can prepare for discursive or acquired prayer by mental practices, memorization, and understanding the skopos or goal of the methods we employ they cannot be compared to the dignity and sublimity of mystical prayer which we we ought to desire with all spirit longing. For, mystical prayer is the prayer of the Holy Spirit within us, over which we have no power to force or even to equal. Though we may always raise ourselves up, by degrees, with acts of faith, hope and love, acts of desire and contrition, acts of worship and acts of praise and acts of supplication. These pious acts and holy inspirations we ought to pray for, long for, wait for and be desirous of and to savor with all sweetness when they are divinely bestowed upon the dryness of the soul. For God causes the growth even though one man sowed and another watered. For the Sun of Righteousness is the fountain of eternal Light and from Him does the vine ripen and the grape glisten with interior sweetness, made rich by the abundance of life giving sap, drawn from the Holy Root of the Blessed Seed.
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« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2022, 01:15:37 AM »

Thank you Benedict for the additional content. I haven't read it all yet but will do so.

Is it taken from a blog of yours ? Either way, it's very helpful.
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