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« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2020, 02:36:00 PM »

I fear I am nearly overwhelmed by your wonderful recommendations of the two big Scripture commentaries.  I want them both, but wish I could just access on line rather than download.  I found the St Thomas Aquinas but it seems I just have to scroll blindly (forever) without any index or sub-division.  Are there best versions of these?  If I download, will they significantly slow down access to either my internal or external drives?  I'm very sorry to sound negative.  They are fascinating.
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« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2020, 09:26:24 PM »

eschator83, I do not know if there are better versions. I do not know about the downloading.
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« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2020, 10:24:50 PM »

I generally advise downloading the PDF files available on Saints' Books to your own computer, perhaps to your desktop or a folder on it. They will load faster and flip pages faster, especially in the case of the facsimiles rather than the retyped versions, with those it's much better than reading them on the Internet. Cheesy They do not take up any significant hard drive space.

There are fascsimile versions of the first two books of the Catena Aurea as well as the retyped version. Would you be interested in this sort? These are the each page photographed instead of each page retyped version.

Some PDF viewers let you place books in a side by side two page at once mode that can be easier to read.

You can also print out significant portions of some of them if you have a laser printer with enough toner. I'm not sure how fast an ink jet printer would run out of ink on the other hand. Usually you can print much more cost effectively in black and white with a laser printer.

I think some of these writings can be purchased too in print, though I have not looked. Sometimes there are proper editions othertimes there are lower quality but perhaps acceptable facsimile copies people sell of the printed PDFs.

One should prioritize first finding the most literal english translation possible, which I think is currently the original Douai, and reading the Vulgate if you can, or reading the translation side by side with it, as in the end the Latin is going to be the most exact you can find and a good reference for looking up word meanings. Holy Scripture in English and Latin, and a commentary all opened up are a splendid preparation for reading and study. Some of the commentaries have the English translated in them too, and so are more portable. It is also not hard to pick up Latin words, as many English words are derived from them. Some people would not be happy with the old English spelling but you can pick it up pretty quickly if you put in a little effort. There are also modernized spelling versions of the original Douai. There used to be a partially modernized version on a university website but I believe it is gone now.

I am very glad to hear you are so happy with the commentaries! I am as well. They are of a special character.

I think it is not too hard to know the meaning of many of the Latin words below here:

1    In the beginning God created heauen and earth.
   In principio creavit Deus cælum et terram.
2    And the earth was voide & vacant, and darkenes was vpon the face of the deapth: and the Spirite of God moued ouer the waters.
   Terra autem erat inanis et vacua, et tenebræ erant super faciem abyssi : et spiritus Dei ferebatur super aquas.
3    And God said: Be light made. And light was made.
   Dixitque Deus : Fiat lux. Et facta est lux.
4    And God saw the light that it was good: & he divided the light from the darkness.
   Et vidit Deus lucem quod esset bona : et divisit lucem a tenebris.

And reading them you learn more about the Church for example 'tenebris' immediately brings to mind 'tenebrae'.
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'Flores apparuerunt in terra nostra. . . Fulcite me floribus. (The flowers appear on the earth. . . stay me up with flowers. Sg 2:12,5)
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« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2020, 10:35:25 PM »

Thanks for trying Cyril! Cheesy It looks like there was an edition in that year based on the Challoner Douai.
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« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2020, 06:23:06 PM »

Following is the thread I have started looking at for the St Thomas Aquinas list of Gospel commentaries:
[mod edit: see announcements re: links]
There are so many commentators listed that it makes me wish that St Thomas might have written only his own- which I suppose he may well have and I just don't know about it.  I find myself spending as much time wondering who it was that made the comment as I do thinking about the comment itself.  But it has been fascinating just reading something so old, and so reverent.
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« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2020, 07:15:08 PM »

St. John Chrysostom, St. Augistine, thankfully many of their writings have survived.

Just a reminder there's a no links policy, as per the announcements.

If you can gather some of the source books that the commentaries are drawn from you'll really have quite a library!
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« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2021, 07:37:21 PM »

David wrote Psalm 86: Listen to me, Yahweh, answer me, for I am poor and needy.
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« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2021, 11:20:16 PM »

The Psalms were meant to be prayed and memorized and served as a general means of instruction for prayer and doctrine.
The Psalms are said to contain all emotions and in Lectio Divina they become the mouth of the Christian and the song of the Church.
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PAX
CRUX SANCTI PATRIS BENEDICTI
CRUX SACRA SIT MIHI LUX!
NON DRACO SIT MIHI DUX!
VADE RETRO SATANA!
NUMQUAM SUADE MIHI VANA!
SUNT MALA QUAE LIBAS
IPSE VENENA BIBAS!
All Glory Be To God!
All Praise Be To God!
For God Is Greater Than All Things!
Alleluia!
Alleluia!
Alleluia!
Glory to Th
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