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« on: December 21, 2014, 03:09:56 AM »

My parish is 100 years old and has both pre and post Vatican II items in our sanctuary. We still retain the original altar and  tabernacle, providing a spectacular residing place for Our Lord, but in the 70's a new processional cross with matching candle holders got purchased by the Priest at that time.
 The processional  cross is one of those risen Christ designs.  Huh?  I guess they were popular in some parishes back then?
The  Church's original crucifix got propped in a corner to become corroded and  was later damaged from falling over.  I'm not trying to paint an image of carelessness and  neglect, this is an old building with old liturgical supplies piling up from changes made over the years
and the majority of parishioners are farmers from the dust bowl days who learned to never throw anything out.

  I am on the parish council and  was told by our newest Priest that while he wasn't going to force us to get  a crucifix, what we have is not proper for mass. 
 I couldn't agree more and went to the council about this and as providence would have it, we will soon receive a lovely processional crucifix from a Parish which is unfortunately closing in a neighboring county.  We plan to give them a donation for this, it is a wonderful solution,  has divine intervention all over it!
Well.... The news is out and I am getting a lot of  Angry Angry
These are ladies I am on the altar society with, and with whom I work with preparing funeral dinners, etc. I care for them like family and also get annoyed as if they were my own.  I want to have some answers for them when they approach me on this and I need ( because Father told me I had to Grin) to answer with love and compassion.  I feel like  brick wall that I need to come up with a reason for a Catholic to want a Crucifix instead of a resurrectifix!  I need your prayers and guidance because Satan would like a chance to jump in on this.
I have been in tears, and angry over what I see as a rejection of the thing that makes us Catholic ( our Lord's passion)and a very profound and beautiful beginning/end to Mass.  The crucifix leads the way! Thank The Lord, tears and outward anger were just while talking to Father about my resentments and so far the slights I have committed have been amended toward those harmed.
   I think part of the problem is this church went from very traditional to sort of dragged into the Novus Ordo mass, complete with having the marble communion rail taken down. The members, most of them are long timers and endured some trauma from splits within the congregation over this. I missed this whole change as I have only recently joined the church and had floated around as a kid having no problem with Vatican II. It is all I ever knew, and I watched it from the outside, as a non Catholic in a Catholic school.
   I may have problems with not understanding what they went through, but on the other hand, I am attracted to the very traditional Catholic mass, none of which is offered here and I am helping to restore some of that which was lost.
  So if you can lead me to any Saint's truths, sources that I can cite, I would appreciate it. Also some older Catholic wisdom, please! I am an old worn out lady but I am a baby in the Church and my Godmother cannot be of much help in this one!
God bless you! crucifix

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« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2014, 01:51:39 AM »

Your heart is being guided to the right place with the love of Our Lord's Passion and His Sacrifice. Cheesy Be grateful for God's love!

As you bear with grace with the ladies you will have Our Lord and Our Lady with you bearing the troubles! When we bear things for the sake of God with a pure intention, that is a virtuous action which gains us the happiness of Heaven.

It is through the crucifix that Our Lord shows us the extent of His Love!

The crucifix is the visible representation of the Holy Sacrifice offered in the Holy Mass before us! To not wish to see the crucifix is not to wish to see the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass -- so of course the crucifix must be before our eyes. We must be forever thankful for the sacrifice He has given us and understand it is the path He calls us to follow to Heaven.

'When you are alone in your room, take your crucifix, kiss its five wounds reverently, tell it to preach you a little sermon, and then listen to the words of eternal life that it speaks to your heart; listen to the pleading of the thorns, the nails, the precious Blood. Oh, what an eloquent sermon!'

St. Paul of the Cross

'O souls! seek a refuge, like pure doves, in the shadow of the crucifix. There mourn the Passion of your divine Spouse, and drawing from your hearts flames of love and rivers of tears, make of them a precious balm with which to anoint the wounds of your Saviour.'

St. Paul of the Cross

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« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2014, 05:30:03 AM »

Sometimes we just have to let some things go. They have a different perspective than we have getting into a huge arguement won't do anybody any good. 
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« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2014, 01:56:06 PM »

You are so right! 
I went to confession and started some new devotionals, trying to deepen my prayer life and had the opportunity to help the offended person decorate the altar for Christmas mass.
Sometimes I wonder if I will ever grow up?
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« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2014, 08:29:18 PM »

Thank you Shin, for the quotes! Thank you both for the kind and wise words and thanks to all for listening and praying!
  Father may have brought us our new processional crucifix for our Christmas Vigil Mass tonight.
It should be very well attended with lots of visiting family members. 
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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2015, 12:57:38 AM »

It took awhile, but we have our new ( new to us) processional  crucifix!
I am praying that it touches other's hearts and souls to now see our crucified Lord
Lifted up and leading the way to the altar and then turned toward the congregation
And carried past everyone during the sending forth hymn. crucifix
   The Parish which is closing down was very grateful to have found a safe home for
It. The parish building is scheduled to be demolished this year and they are trying to
Safely repurpose as many of the liturgical items and building components as they can.
Our parish donated money to this closing parish's cemetery fund as a gesture of support
For their very sad situation. To see a parish have to close is very hard.
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