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« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2010, 12:00:53 PM »

I'm thinking back now to some of the books I've read by Chinese survivors.. by survivors I mean those who lived through Mao, or through the One-Child Policy, etc. .  . The methodology used to promote the current policies from the current 'Great Leader' were always moral in tone.. and based on warfare.. warfare between those who supported the regime's policies and those who would even dare to be negligent in doing so. In other words, neutrality was not tolerated.. only at least feigned complete support.

Or as a proverb from the East goes, 'The nail that sticks up, gets hammered down.'

What we have in America is called 'political correctness' and what it teaches us is that those that use different language than is permitted are 'hateful' people who are 'extremists' and rightly to be condemned and removed from the table of support and discussion. In other words, it is politically correct to 'hate' the 'haters', but the word 'hate' is not used for those who support this policy though they reject and condemn, and claim to reject and condemn all condemnation..

One of the interesting things I've explored as I've read the lives of the saints is that hatred, anger, all these negative seeming emotions have their place too. It can even be a sin not to have them to some degree on some occasions. What occasions are these? Against sins, and in spiritual warfare especially. Against all evil, where-ever it is, whomever it may lie within.

In other words if we do not hate sins we have a problem. We cannot love everything -- because if we love sin, and do not reject strongly, we are lost because of its attraction and because we do not respect the harm it does and how God views it. But now we have 'hate crimes'. And we have people being arrested for teaching what the scriptures have to say about sin.

How can this be gotten away with? By making the sinful fervent.. and the virtuous weak. Agitating towards promotion of sin, and discouraging promotion of virtue. So that today, in public life, many Catholic teachings -- the teachings of God cannot be expressed easily without fear of reprisals.

But here I go off rambling about the overall scheme of things.. when it might be better to look at the minutiae and quote some articles that demonstrate agitprop in some way or another. Perhaps I'll do that in a bit or someone else will. Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2010, 01:52:35 PM »

Is agitprop kind of like brainwashing? You see it everywhere, hear it everywhere,  and you start believing it? If everyone is doing it , it must be right and moral....

Am I on the right track here? Let me know. Smiley
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« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2010, 02:40:09 PM »

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Agitating towards promotion of sin, and discouraging promotion of virtue.


Is 'agiprop' from the same root word as agitating?
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« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2010, 07:45:37 PM »

Yes, just looked it up.

But you know, I was composing something for another thread and it completely blanked out on me..... this has happened twice today.... just so someone knows.

I have a lot of thoughts on this subject.  Please bear with me....... I won't get to it tonight at all! 
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« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2010, 04:53:54 AM »

Is agitprop kind of like brainwashing? You see it everywhere, hear it everywhere,  and you start believing it? If everyone is doing it , it must be right and moral....

Am I on the right track here? Let me know. Smiley

That's the goal!  Cheesy
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« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2010, 10:27:14 AM »

At the risk of sounding like a broken record the best method of combatting propaganda is to turn off the box  Smiley
I was hoping maybe to open another thread on the topic of, " Should our spiritual life also incorporate care for the body"
I was wondering about this and to what degree we should be aware of threats to the body insomuch as they have a bearing on our spiritual life.
An example would be the substance called Aspartame that is put in almost every sugar-free product you can buy. Aparantly it can cause defects in the brain and in general has the tendency to "Dumb Down" our natural ability to think.
Another one would be the use of Floride in our water supplies.          Any thoughts ?
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« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2010, 04:20:20 PM »

At the risk of sounding like a broken record the best method of combatting propaganda is to turn off the box  Smiley
I was hoping maybe to open another thread on the topic of, " Should our spiritual life also incorporate care for the body"
I was wondering about this and to what degree we should be aware of threats to the body insomuch as they have a bearing on our spiritual life.
An example would be the substance called Aspartame that is put in almost every sugar-free product you can buy. Aparantly it can cause defects in the brain and in general has the tendency to "Dumb Down" our natural ability to think.
Another one would be the use of Floride in our water supplies.          Any thoughts ?


Good one.  Start a thread! 
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« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2010, 05:54:37 AM »

At the risk of sounding like a broken record the best method of combatting propaganda is to turn off the box  Smiley
I was hoping maybe to open another thread on the topic of, " Should our spiritual life also incorporate care for the body"
I was wondering about this and to what degree we should be aware of threats to the body insomuch as they have a bearing on our spiritual life.
An example would be the substance called Aspartame that is put in almost every sugar-free product you can buy. Aparantly it can cause defects in the brain and in general has the tendency to "Dumb Down" our natural ability to think.
Another one would be the use of Floride in our water supplies.          Any thoughts ?


It's a good idea for a thread. Smiley
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« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2013, 04:20:00 PM »

Here we go with another word for the day.
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« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2013, 09:03:37 PM »

What we have in America is called 'political correctness' and what it teaches us is that those that use different language than is permitted are 'hateful' people who are 'extremists' and rightly to be condemned and removed from the table of support and discussion. In other words, it is politically correct to 'hate' the 'haters', but the word 'hate' is not used for those who support this policy though they reject and condemn, and claim to reject and condemn all condemnation..
I find that a very effective tool that the media (aka satan's puppet) uses is the blurring of the lines between the sin and the sinner.  We seem to live in a society now where it is now assumed that hating the sin is the equivalent of hating the sinner.  Hate speech has now turned into "hurt speech".
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« Reply #26 on: April 29, 2013, 11:35:04 PM »

Yes and it all has its roots in Communism.

Agitprop is a Communist technique.

Agitprop -- agitation, propaganda. That's how to remember it if the word's a little too new to some folks vocabulary. Agitation propaganda. The goal is to get in the news, with a story to generate the most powerful propaganda for the cause that will agitate people to act on it. 

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