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« on: April 21, 2010, 08:07:48 PM »

Although we certainly don't want to speak of non-approved apparitions, many Saints of the Church have spoken about the 3 days of darkness. How likely do you think it to be and if you think there will be such a thing, do you think it will come in your lifetime?
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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2010, 05:17:40 PM »

I think we are in many days of darkness now; spiritual darkness.
I don't think much about things like that....... so I don't know what to say.   shrug
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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2010, 06:06:10 PM »

I agree with the spiritual darkness, but a number of Saints seemed to stress a specific time. Undecided Not that it makes a lot of difference to what we do (although maybe in preparedness - always a good thing).
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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2010, 06:16:46 PM »

I do not know much about the three days, though I would like to read more..

I recall blessed beeswax candles being advised for light, or there would be none -- that demons would roam free, and reveal themselves to all, that many people would die.. that one should not look out or open a window, or one would die.. but the authority of these things I do not recall the details of, who prophecized it or not..

I do have the great impression we are overdue, in general for a chastisement of some kind.

World War 1, and World War 2, are both said to be chastisements for sin. That being the case, and the moral caliber of the world not being superior to the generations before those times, we would be overdue.

And stocking on on candles, holy water, sacramentals, as well as cans and guns would be basically the sensible thing to do.

The latter's the self-sufficient survivalist mentality in me. Smiley

Does anyone else know more?

I will be reading up more of these things as I keep up gathering prophecy quotes, I'm taking a couple days break from that at the moment. Reading all these end of the world prophecies and then tying all the threads together is some work. The prophecies in general regarding the anti-Christare very consistent, from many nations, over two thousand years, so you can see their reliability.

I do not however have much on the three days yet.
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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2010, 07:14:23 PM »

The main mention of the 3 days of darkness was in the Garabanal Apparitions in Northern Spain.
The Bishop of that Diocese considers the apparitions authentic but the Church has never given a general ruling on the matter.
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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2010, 07:21:44 PM »

I don't think cans and guns will do much for the next one, Shin.  Iran and Venezuela will see to that perhaps.  But, begging to differ  (as usual  Grin), I think we bring about our own chastisements.

Shin, what is all this research on the end of the world stuff?  Our personal end of the world is the same result as the bigger end of the world.  As St. Thomas More said to a friend before going to the guillotine: "I die now, you die later.  See you then."  (paraphrase)
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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2010, 09:32:04 PM »

A few of the Saints I've heard of talking  Undecided  about this were St. Hildegard, Bl. Anna-Maria Taigi, St. Padre Pio, and Ven. Mary of Agreda (plus supposedly some mystics of the Church). I've also read of people equating some of the prophecies to some of Revelation.

I must admit I think that all the talk of blessed matches for the blessed candles, "kits" and black-out "curtains", etc. are simple marketing ploys. I have thought about getting some Blessed candles and some exorcised Blessed salt (along with water which is handy for numerous problems). Guns are too expensive and I have food and Holy water anyway.

Bailey2, I do think we do bring about our own chastisement, however this is about a mass chastisement and mass spiritual warfare is all, that it seems that Saints have talked about in a specific way (supposedly).
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« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2010, 12:09:20 AM »

I don't think cans and guns will do much for the next one, Shin.  Iran and Venezuela will see to that perhaps.  But, begging to differ  (as usual  Grin), I think we bring about our own chastisements.

Shin, what is all this research on the end of the world stuff?  Our personal end of the world is the same result as the bigger end of the world.  As St. Thomas More said to a friend before going to the guillotine: "I die now, you die later.  See you then."  (paraphrase)


I don't actually know his last words. Now you make me want to find them to quote them.  Cheesy

I understand that we must live each day as if it were are last! (and I do not, though at least I am thinking about it more now)..

But certain times can try even the saints more greatly than others..

And we are told in the scriptures, if I recall correctly, to watch the signs of the times.. to watch.. and to know and understand what is happening..

If we do not see our times in the context of history.. and what the saints speak of.. we lose an understanding and perspective of where we are.. that could be quite helpful.. and perhaps even essential..

If you look at how the ages of the world at traditionally divided.. when the gentiles fall away from Christianity finally. . this is a terrible sign, it is a sign of the very end. And the gentile nations, finally, have done so largely. .

What does this mean? Is it the very end? Or is it a precursor or a foreshadowing? One of the things that you notice in prophecy is that there are times that foreshadow what the complete fulfillment will be.. in other words.. a lesser fulfillment that shows what the final fulfillment will be like..

So watching and knowing how these things play out is good for more than only those who experience the final fulfillment of the end.

Prophecy is I would say my least favorite and last approached subject.. but as I learn about it.. it is not as ephemeral as I first thought... because of the vast agreement across time and history as to what will occur..

The reign of Julian the Apostate is said to be a 'type' of the end-times and the time of the Antichrist. A type shows what the final time will be like. And I see a good deal of what is going on now in that time. The sermon gives an idea of prophecy and types, and how to understand it. Sort of a primer, I think, by examples. Cheesy

St. Vincent Ferrer said that he was the Angel of the Apocalypse that God had sent to announce the decadence of Christendom and the beginning of the end times. This was in the 19th century.

Times have accelerated a good deal.

There are many books that compile quotations of the saints on prophecy. I have a few of them. I'm not going to interpret anything at all if I can help it. I just want to find out what is said, and build some concordances. So far what I've read.. and what we're going through right now..

Let me put it this way.. everything I've read tells me there's a great potential for cataclysmic events right now. And I think, even if a person knows nothing of prophecy and sees it all as a foreign language, 'Greek to me', which a person can actually overcome.. Smiley I know the feeling of that, I've been there... and disliked reading so many 'interpreters' reading things in, so my approach, going to the sources directly.. always my method truly.. so even if a person is like that..

You can tell just practically.. the world right now has great potential for great disasters to occur. This doesn't mean living in fear.. but it does mean being practically prepared for great things to potentially go wrong. In spirit, and to a degree materially.

We have New Orleans as an example of what happens when things break down.

One of the great examples of prophecy fulfilled, I might add is the prophecies of the Anglican schism and eventual rejoining, which we see occurring now I believe. Smiley


"He who survives those three days of darkness and horror will see himself as if alone, because the earth will be covered with cadavers".

St. Gaspar del Bufalo, founder of the Fathers of the Precious Blood, - d. 1837 A.D.
(Source: THE THREE DAY'S DARKNESS: PROPHECIES OF SAINTS AND SEERS by Albert J. Hebert, S.M)

The source cited is a book I do not have but definitely think I should pick up. The author also wrote, "Saints Who Raise the Dead: True Stories of 400 Resurrection Miracles"

"God will send two punishments; one will be in the form of wars, revolutions and other evils; it shall originate on earth. The other will be sent from Heaven. There shall come over the whole earth an intense darkness lasting three days and three nights. Nothing can be seen, and the air will be laden with pestilence which will claim mainly, but not only, the enemies of religion. It will be impossible to use any man-made lighting during this darkness, except blessed candles. He, who out of curiosity, opens his window to look out, or leaves his home, will fall dead on the spot. During these three days, people should remain in their homes, pray the Rosary and beg God for mercy."

Bl. Anna-Marie Taigi

I see I have more clips about this in my concordances than I thought.  Let's see what else do I have.
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« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2010, 12:25:31 AM »

"God will send two punishments: one will be in the form of wars, revolutions and other evils; it shall originate on earth. The other will be sent from Heaven. There shall come over the whole earth an intense darkness lasting three days and three nights. Nothing will be visible, and the air will be laden with pestilence which will claim mainly, but not only, the enemies of religion."

"After the three days of darkness, St. Peter and St. Paul, having come down from Heaven, will preach in the whole world and designate a new Pope. A great light will flash from their bodies and will settle upon the cardinal who is to become Pope. Christianity, then, will spread throughout the world. He is the Holy Pontiff, chosen by God to withstand the storm. At the end, he will have the gift of miracles, and his name shall be praised over the whole earth."

Bl. Anna-Maria Taigi [Source: Desmond Birch, 'Trial, Tribulation, and Triumph' pp. 362-363]

Yes, this is almost all I have on it.

"All the nations will be shaken by war and revolution. During the three days of darkness, the followers of the evil cause will be annihilated, so that only one-fourth of mankind will survive."

Sister Marie of Jesus Crucified (19th Century) [Source: Dupot, 'Catholic Prophecy']
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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2010, 08:40:14 AM »

As always I go back to the Fatima message of Our Lady, which I think is a culmination of all prophecies. If Our Lady decided to perform the Miracle of the Sun, the greatest of miracles in our time She was trying to draw attention to what She was saying. If the Holy Father does not consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary , Russia will be the  instrument of great chastisements on earth. Will that period see the three days of darkness? I don't know. But She has provided us help for the coming difficult period. She emphasized on the daily Rosary, wearing the brown Scapular and Communion of Reparation on First Saturdays of five consecutive months. I think,  keeping a few blessed candles would be a good idea in case the three days of darkness came upon us in our lifetime. Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2010, 09:17:42 AM »

As always I go back to the Fatima message of Our Lady, which I think is a culmination of all prophecies. If Our Lady decided to perform the Miracle of the Sun, the greatest of miracles in our time She was trying to draw attention to what She was saying. If the Holy Father does not consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary , Russia will be the  instrument of great chastisements on earth. Will that period see the three days of darkness? I don't know. But She has provided us help for the coming difficult period. She emphasized on the daily Rosary, wearing the brown Scapular and Communion of Reparation on First Saturdays of five consecutive months. I think,  keeping a few blessed candles would be a good idea in case the three days of darkness came upon us in our lifetime. Smiley

Yes, blessed candles in any case are very useful regardless of what occurs. Smiley

Russia certainly has 'spread her errors' across the earth, that is especially all the fundamental concepts involved in Communism. It's a true shame to see it all taken so lightly. I want to say more from what I have read of the quotes I have but I still haven't gotten them all sorted out in my mind. I know that some seem related to Fatima -- there are some about wars, that I want to get a greater idea of who is participating in, if possible.

I am so much happier reading the moral advice of the saints, prophecy is difficult!  Cheesy
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I know that some seem related to Fatima -- there are some about wars, that I want to get a greater idea of who is participating in, if possible.
I'd like to hear more on your research on Fatima.
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« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2010, 10:22:16 AM »

Bailey2, I do think we do bring about our own chastisement, however this is about a mass chastisement and mass spiritual warfare is all, that it seems that Saints have talked about in a specific way (supposedly).

Well, they say a meteor will eventually hit the earth and create all the things you guys are describing.  Also, all this fuss about 2012......  but, I think it is a simple matter of "when you see these things, look up to heaven and rejoice" and "to God, a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years is like a day" and "no one knows the day or hour"  and yes, look for the signs.....but........  and I don't think the natural catastrophies are any more than usual throughout the history of the planet; nor the depravity and worse than it has always been........  but carry on......  littlewings
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« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2010, 12:45:52 PM »

Bailey2, I do think we do bring about our own chastisement, however this is about a mass chastisement and mass spiritual warfare is all, that it seems that Saints have talked about in a specific way (supposedly).

Well, they say a meteor will eventually hit the earth and create all the things you guys are describing.  Also, all this fuss about 2012......  but, I think it is a simple matter of "when you see these things, look up to heaven and rejoice" and "to God, a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years is like a day" and "no one knows the day or hour"  and yes, look for the signs.....but........  and I don't think the natural catastrophies are any more than usual throughout the history of the planet; nor the depravity and worse than it has always been........  but carry on......  littlewings

Oh no, now I have a song caught in my head 'Carry on'..  littlewings  Cheesy

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I know that some seem related to Fatima -- there are some about wars, that I want to get a greater idea of who is participating in, if possible.
I'd like to hear more on your research on Fatima.

I'll try to write some more about it when I have it more figured out.  Cheesy

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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2010, 03:04:41 PM »

Shin, you have compiled and wisely written about so many things! Thank you.

Patricia, what do you think about whether, if one has completed a set of Saturday of Reparations if one is advised to 'keep it up'.

Also, Shin, from what you've read do we really need to have Blessed candles made of beeswax or regular candles that have been Blessed? And do you think we can only use candles Blessed by a traditionalist priest?
These things are expensive and/or very difficult to find in this archdiocese (if the traditionalist priest is in communion with Rome, that is)? I know that some websites talk of this, but then sell "kits" or are otherwise materially involved and I don't trust them to not be biased and to speak the Truth.

Another somewhat natural phenomenon that has come about is our president canceling the National Day of Prayer. The idea of an Anti-Christ seems to be coming closer and closer.

Bailey2, the Church teaches that Scripture is to be read both literally (not literalistically as Fundamentalist churches do) and spiritually - we are to understand Scripture in the spiritual sense and as having been historically, now happening and future happenings. That's where prophecy enters in. Look at the OT. So your interpretation would not be wrong, although possibly incomplete? BTW, I think the hullaballoo about 2012 is most probably bogus.
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Bailey2, the Church teaches that Scripture is to be read both literally (not literalistically as Fundamentalist churches do) and spiritually - we are to understand Scripture in the spiritual sense and as having been historically, now happening and future happenings. That's where prophecy enters in. Look at the OT. So your interpretation would not be wrong, although possibly incomplete? BTW, I think the hullaballoo about 2012 is most probably bogus.

What is OT?
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