Prophecy Quotations - Excerpts

[Brigid]

martinfegan posted:

I think the wolves are out in numbers now against the church and especially the Ponificate.
I wouldn't be surprised if their are some already working on the inside.

I've worried about this and have been feeling that it's difficult for El Papa even within the curia. The modernism that has been so prevalent would make it easy to have infected the curia.

[martin]

I just finished reading a book entitled AA-1025.  It deals with communist infiltration of the church since the 50's.
The AA-1025 refers to the number of the agent who's diary was discovered by a nurse who was trying to save his life after a car accident.
Has anyone else read this?

[Shin]

I just finished reading a book entitled AA-1025.  It deals with communist infiltration of the church since the 50's.
The AA-1025 refers to the number of the agent who's diary was discovered by a nurse who was trying to save his life after a car accident.
Has anyone else read this?

Yes, I've read it. I've been meaning to follow up reading it by reading Bella V. Dodd's, 'School of Darkness' but got bogged down in it shortly into it, and trying to study more what extent we can learn about the infiltration from what files of the KGB that were released after the fall of the U.S.S.R.

There's so much to read and consider, and so little time.

I am not entirely sure what I think of it, I might add.

[Brigid]

I just finished reading a book entitled AA-1025.  It deals with communist infiltration of the church since the 50's.
The AA-1025 refers to the number of the agent who's diary was discovered by a nurse who was trying to save his life after a car accident.
Has anyone else read this?

No I haven't but it sounds really interesting. So does the one Shin was talking about - "School of Darkness".

[martin]

Me neither Shin. The most striking part of the book is where his girl friend who's catholic enters a convent to pray for his salvation.
She writes him a letter which is one of the best testiments to the faith that your ever likely to read. It ads a bit of credibility to the whole thing.

[Brigid]

Me neither Shin. The most striking part of the book is where his girl friend who's catholic enters a convent to pray for his salvation.
She writes him a letter which is one of the best testiments to the faith that your ever likely to read. It ads a bit of credibility to the whole thing.

You're making me more and more interested in reading it.

[martin]

I just finished reading a book entitled AA-1025.  It deals with communist infiltration of the church since the 50's.
The AA-1025 refers to the number of the agent who's diary was discovered by a nurse who was trying to save his life after a car accident.
Has anyone else read this?

No I haven't but it sounds really interesting. So does the one Shin was talking about - "School of Darkness".

Yes that book too sounds interesting. It's a topic I don't much like but still wish to know the truth of things despite that.

[Patricia]

I think I read  AA-1025 long back.  Could there actually be Communist spies among priests ? You never know. What if those who deliberately lead the flock astray are the ones?

Anyway, speculations aside, the coldness with which this Communist enters the priesthood and his hatred for the Church is mind-boggling.

[Brigid]

I just finished reading a book entitled AA-1025.  It deals with communist infiltration of the church since the 50's.
The AA-1025 refers to the number of the agent who's diary was discovered by a nurse who was trying to save his life after a car accident.
Has anyone else read this?

No I haven't but it sounds really interesting. So does the one Shin was talking about - "School of Darkness".

Yes that book too sounds interesting. It's a topic I don't much like but still wish to know the truth of things despite that.

Who's it by (AA-1025), martinfegan?

[martin]

The copy I have Bridgid is by Marie Carre. Its a revised edition.

[Brigid]

Rats. Our library doesn't have either.

[Shin]

Me neither Shin. The most striking part of the book is where his girl friend who's catholic enters a convent to pray for his salvation.
She writes him a letter which is one of the best testiments to the faith that your ever likely to read. It ads a bit of credibility to the whole thing.

Book aside -- Well, it is a fact that the Communists did infiltrate, but to what degree is the question.

[Patricia]

I don't know if the book is online somewhere. I'm almost sure I read it online, or my brother might have sent it to me.

Book aside -- Well, it is a fact that the Communists did infiltrate, but to what degree is the question

Shin, how do you know for a fact that the Communists infiltrated the Church?

[Shin]

I don't know if the book is online somewhere. I'm almost sure I read it online, or my brother might have sent it to me.

Book aside -- Well, it is a fact that the Communists did infiltrate, but to what degree is the question

Shin, how do you know for a fact that the Communists infiltrated the Church?

There is an interview with Alice von Hildebrand which was first done by Latin Mass Magazine, and later published by Christian Order, that is still one the web if one looks for it. The article discusses the infiltration to a degree, mentioning Fr. Alighiero Tondi, S.J. who was a mole for the Communists, and the cause of many of our priests sent to evangelize the Soviet Union and the nations under her control's imprisonment and death. Time Magazine wrote about his 'conversion' to the Communist Party that is also online - He taught at Gregorian University and was an advisor to Bishop Montini, later Paul VI. He later publicly joined the Communist Party, was defrocked, and married.

Before recent times the Church Militant was just that.. now we are not, and we do not run things as if foreign governments were attempting to infilltrate us, and we need a militant stance of orthodoxy to prevent this, and a careful watch. Why has this changed? Well. We can ask for the public reasons, and we can ask for the reasons that are not from God, that underlie every undermining of the Church.

I have not gotten deeply into Bella V. Dodd's testimony about the infiltration yet, which she says was quite widespread and involved the seminaries, but we do know from secret police documents that were unveiled that at least many bishops were informing on their priests and seminarians in Communist Poland, the Catholic News Agency reported on this -- You can look up Archbishop Stanislaw Weilgus for information on one of these bishops.

I'll quote CNA:

"A special Church commission disclosed on Wednesday that about a dozen bishops, who are still living, had ties to Poland’s communist-era secret police.

The commission said that among Poland's 132 bishops, “about a dozen were registered by the security services of communist Poland as ‘secret collaborators’ or ‘operational contacts’ and one was registered as an “agent” of the intelligence service,” reported The Associated Press.

The secret police labeled other bishops as “candidates.” In such cases, security agents gathered material on a person in the hope of recruiting him as an informant.

This news comes at a time when Polish Catholics are still reeling from the shock of discovering that some of its clergy, previously known for their resistance to communism, had ties to the repressive government.

In order to uncover the extent of the connections between the clergy and the security services, the country’s bishops created a commission to investigate. The bishops asked the special commission to review the communist-era files in January, after Archbishop Stanislaw Wielgus of Warsaw resigned before his installation over disclosures he had cooperated with the former secret police. "

That is some of it.

I can't go too much into it because yet again, this is an area I have not completely enough significant research on. I have several books on the changes after the Council that might also draw light on this, 'Iota Unum' for example, a very heavy book, I have the articles I have put before you. There are some materials I cannot get ahold of. There is much reading to do to try to understand what has happened to the Church and why since the destruction after the Council. I do however, rather hope that my studies into prophecy will provide some guiding insights or even the key. Because, I as I thought a time back, "All this destruction should not simply be entirely unprophecized, it would seem unreasonable if it were not. There has to be something about it, and that may give me some of what I need to understand and rest more reliably in that understanding."

The difficulties post Council are one of the reasons I first began going to the saints completely for my spiritual understanding, to chart a reliable spiritual path through the smoke and fog of these times.

[Patricia]

I didn't know about this Communist infiltration in Poland.  Even the pedophiles among priests may be another kind of diabolic infiltration (communists? ) to try to defame and ultimately destroy the Catholic Church , you never know. This is just a thought.

[Shin]

I didn't know about this Communist infiltration in Poland.  Even the pedophiles among priests may be another kind of diabolic infiltration (communists? ) to try to defame and ultimately destroy the Catholic Church , you never know. This is just a thought.

Well, the Devil's conspiracy is the true and ultimate and realest conspiracy. It is quite true that he is behind both these things. The people who conspire against the Church may be more or less organized, and to what extent we may never know in this life, or perhaps we may come close, who knows -- but in the next we will see, how everything was guided by both Providence and angels, and Satan and his devils, influencing men, so many of whom did not believe in that which influenced them.

I do have 'Goodbye Good Men', I've only read some of it. Things are not good right now in the Church, heresy, apostasy, Modernism, it is everywhere, high and low. But that does not mean God cannot guide us through it all. It is by such things that we each are put to the test, and show our own true colors, whether we love the truth and God or not.