Some Non-Saint Quotes for Today, from Mother Russia

[Shin]

A system of licensing and registration is the perfect device to deny gun ownership to the bourgeoisie.

-- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

One man with a gun can control 100 without one.

-- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

It is true that liberty is precious; so precious that it must be carefully rationed.

-- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted.

-- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

Give us the child for 8 years and it will be a Bolshevik forever.

-- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

Destroy the family, you destroy the country.

-- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

The goal of socialism is communism.

-- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

The best way to destroy the capitalist system is to debauch the currency.

-- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism.

-- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

The press should be not only a collective propagandist and a collective agitator, but also a collective organizer of the masses

-- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

Death is the solution to all problems - no man, no problem.

-- Joseph Stalin

Print is the sharpest and the strongest weapon of our party.

-- Joseph Stalin

We don't let them have ideas. Why would we let them have guns?

-- Joseph Stalin

Education is a weapon whose effects depend on who holds it in his hands and at whom it is aimed.

-- Joseph Stalin

Gratitude is a sickness suffered by dogs.

-- Joseph Stalin

A sincere diplomat is like dry water or wooden iron.

-- Joseph Stalin

It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.

-- Joseph Stalin

If the opposition disarms, well and good. If it refuses to disarm, we shall disarm it ourselves.

-- Joseph Stalin

Mankind is divided into rich and poor, into property owners and exploited; and to abstract oneself from this fundamental division; and from the antagonism between poor and rich means abstracting oneself from fundamental facts.

-- Joseph Stalin

One death is a tragedy; one million is a statistic.

-- Joseph Stalin

[martin]

The press should be not only a collective propagandist and a collective agitator, but also a collective organizer of the masses


This has evidently come to pass.

[Patricia]

Godless quotes.
The quotes on  getting the children young creeps me out.

[Brigid]

Gratitude is a sickness suffered by dogs.

-- Joseph Stalin

What a sick, sad man himself! He was terrible, and really, really needs our prayers!

[Bailey2]

Now we see why Stalin killed more people than Hitler. 

The rest are either true or twisted.

[Shin]

What I like about these quotes is they demonstrate the source material for what is alive, well, and prolific today, but often simply not under its original name.

[Patricia]

Yes, I have read that there are people today who will swear and die for the above. Probably Putin is one of them. Now it is different approach.  Believe in the same, but don't declare it openly and  wear a mask of humanity for the world to see.

[Shin]

Perhaps I'll share some Mao quotes later.

In the meantime an antidote! 

'No, Venerable Brethren, We must repeat with the utmost energy in these times of social and intellectual anarchy when everyone takes it upon himself to teach as a teacher and lawmaker - the City cannot be built otherwise than as God has built it; society cannot be setup unless the Church lays the foundations and supervises the work; no, civilization is not something yet to be found, nor is the New City to be built on hazy notions; it has been in existence and still is: it is Christian civilization, it is the Catholic City. It has only to be set up and restored continually against the unremitting attacks of insane dreamers, rebels and miscreants. Omnia instaurare in Christo.

Pope St. Pius X, 'Our Apostolic Mandate'

[Patricia]

Amen to that! We need more Popes and priests with that attitude today. Say it as it is.

[Patricia]

What a sick, sad man himself! He was terrible, and really, really needs our prayers!

You mean 'needed our prayers' .

[Brigid]

What a sick, sad man himself! He was terrible, and really, really needs our prayers!

You mean 'needed our prayers' .

Well, if time isn't a continuum for Him but an ever-present now, then even now we can pray for him. Yes?

[Patricia]

If he wasn't Catholic, didn't repent, was Godless till the end, doubtful he even made it to Purgatory.  I really don't know what his end was like, if there was a death-bed conversion,  so depending on that.

[Brigid]

If he wasn't Catholic, didn't repent, was Godless till the end, doubtful he even made it to Purgatory.  I really don't know what his end was like, if there was a death-bed conversion,  so depending on that.

We don't know about any deathbed or unconscious (to us) conversion as St. Jean Vianney spoke about - but what I was talking about was that if it is possible for us to be present at the Crucifixion as we are at every Consecration than time (linear time) is not a factor for Him.

[Shin]

What a sick, sad man himself! He was terrible, and really, really needs our prayers!

You mean 'needed our prayers' .

Well, if time isn't a continuum for Him but an ever-present now, then even now we can pray for him. Yes?

It's interesting, the idea of praying about things that are already said and done. I think I heard of -one- example way back about it, about praying for a Roman Emperor, but do not recall the details. While it appeals to our modern minds, I'm not too keen on it yet because I don't have sufficient precedent. I remember reading one priest talking about, this wasn't a traditional priest, and he was of the opinion we could pray for things in the past that we did not have a clear answer on, but that which we did, that was revealed as fact, God had decided on that, and so it could be wrong to pray about.

For my part, if I discovered sufficient precedent and some favoring of it by God through some saints that would be one thing, but nothing yet, so I don't engage in it.

I think that if it was a useful practice, then all we would have to do to fix a good deal would be to all pray for certain historical problems to go differently than they did. 

"Don't bite the apple! Don't bite the apple!" 

[Brigid]

"Don't bite the apple! Don't bite the apple!" 

[Patricia]

Don't bite the apple! Don't bite the apple!"  happy roll

It took me 2 minutes to understand that. I'm getting old.