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« on: September 27, 2010, 04:20:55 PM »

It is better to deny entrance to just and reasonable anger than to admit it, no matter how small it is. Once let in, it is driven out again only with difficulty. It comes in a little twig and in less than no time it grows big and becomes a beam.


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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2010, 04:25:29 PM »

A twig and a beam...

No coincidence that analogy there! (there are no coincidences  Cheesy)

And here I thought he was going go use 'spark' and 'fire'!
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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2010, 04:46:44 PM »

Until reading this quote I never thought of anger as just another way of judging people.
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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2010, 05:13:12 PM »

I tend to think of hate and murder, and how, when we hate someone we wish that person to be 'gone' so it can become a kind of 'murder' of the mind..

Of course it's perfectly necessary and natural to hate evil, and to use anger to repel it at times, and to exercise justice against it.

But, one simply has to be so very careful and measured and prudent about it..

I recall once a sermon, I think by Fr. Ripperger, perhaps..

About how Adam and Eve, had perfect control over their interior lives before the Fall.

In other words, if Adam had a cause to get angry for something, he would decide to be angry, and would be so for just the right amount and as long as needed, and then, just as quickly he would not be angry anymore when it was no longer called for.

Well..  Cheesy


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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2010, 05:57:15 PM »

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In other words, if Adam had a cause to get angry for something, he would decide to be angry, and would be so for just the right amount and as long as needed, and then, just as quickly he would not be angry anymore when it was no longer called for.

Well..  Cheesy

Lets get straight to the point here Shin.. Grin Are you saying that even before the fall that Adam would have had just cause to be iritated by Eve?
I find this totally unbelievable... Well at least a little unbelievable.... Ok then, I find it totally believable.  Grin
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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2010, 06:01:57 PM »

 rotfl rotfl blue happy roll

Wait a minute! I didn't say that!

I think he might've said that.. but I purposefully left that part out!

Uhoh.. Methinks I said..  silent

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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2010, 06:08:00 PM »

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In other words, if Adam had a cause to get angry for something, he would decide to be angry, and would be so for just the right amount and as long as needed, and then, just as quickly he would not be angry anymore when it was no longer called for.

Well..  Cheesy

Lets get straight to the point here Shin.. Grin Are you saying that even before the fall that Adam would have had just cause to be iritated by Eve?
I find this totally unbelievable... Well at least a little unbelievable.... Ok then, I find it totally believable.  Grin
rotfl happy roll happy roll rotfl blue rotfl blue rotfl blue

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« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2010, 06:22:34 PM »

Bailey has got to read this conversation. I'm waiting. Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2010, 06:29:48 PM »

Bailey has got to read this conversation. I'm waiting. Tongue
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« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2010, 06:30:51 PM »

Ah, let's remember that 'perfect' control is something we must all aim for to the degree it is possible in this life too!  Shocked  Cheesy  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2010, 06:32:48 PM »

Ah, let's remember that 'perfect' control is something we must all aim for to the degree it is possible in this life too!  Shocked  Cheesy  Roll Eyes


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« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2010, 06:38:08 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2010, 07:35:03 PM »

 rotfl rotfl blue happy roll

I'd be angry at the snake, not poor Eve.  And I'm sure Adam was no peach!   Grin

I think twig and beam is a lame description of anger.  For me, try molton lava and a blown volcano!   Wink


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« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2010, 07:39:40 PM »

rotfl rotfl blue happy roll

I'd be angry at the snake, not poor Eve.  And I'm sure Adam was no peach!   Grin

I think twig and beam is a lame description of anger.  For me, try molton lava and a blown volcano!   Wink




I agree about the snake; and Adam, as usual, put the blame on Eve. Roll Eyes

As far as the volcano - maybe St. Augustine was trying to write positively rather than realistically. shrug
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« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2010, 02:42:07 PM »

One of the best exercises in meekness we can perform is when the subject is in ourselves. We must not fret over our own imperfections. Although reason requires that we must be displeased and sorry when-ever we commit a fault, we must refrain from bitter, gloomy, spiteful and emotional displeasure. Many people are greatly at fault in this way. When overcome by anger they become angry at being angry, disturbed at being disturbed, and vexed at being vexed. By such means they keep their hearts drenched and steeped in passion. It may seem that the second fit of anger does away with the first, but actually it serves to open the way for fresh anger on the first occasion that arises. Moreover, these fits of anger, vexation, and bitterness against ourselves tend to pride and they stem from no other source than self-love, which is disturbed and upset that at seeing that it is imperfect.

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« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2010, 03:31:33 PM »

There seems to be a method hidden somewhere here..
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