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« on: April 09, 2015, 05:30:35 AM »

We have a sermon on typology in Exodus. ( I need to listen again as it has all seeped out of this non retaining brain of mine  Grin)
Let us look at typology in Genesis, in particular I am thinking of Isaac as foreshadowing Jesus.
Let me start off by the manner of his conception and birth. This was a miraculous conception and birth considering the fact that both parents were too old to have children in normal circumstances and the mother had been barren all her life. The Angel of the Lord announced to Zachariah that his wife would conceive and bear a child.
Compare that with the circumstances surrounding Jesus Incarnation and Birth.
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« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2015, 09:59:54 AM »

It makes me think of Abel too!
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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2015, 08:36:16 PM »

Abraham placing the wood on Isaac's shoulders to carry an offering up the mountain,
reminds me of Golgotha.
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« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2015, 04:16:50 AM »

Abraham placing the wood on Isaac's shoulders to carry an offering up the mountain,
reminds me of Golgotha.

Exactly and he was "an only begotten son" as we learn from Genesis 22: 1-2

"....Abraham, Abraham. And he answered: Here I am.  He said to him: Take thy only begotten son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and go into the land of vision: and there thou shalt offer him for an holocaust upon one of the mountains which I will shew thee. "
Even more illuminating is the fact that, from those who are knowledgeable in such matters, we learn that at the time of this occurrence, according to Jewish tradition, it is believed that Isaac was around Jesus age when He was crucified, give or take a few years!
Now, consider the location of Mount Moriah where the Lord directed Abraham to sacrifice Isaac.
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« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2015, 10:41:15 AM »

Abraham placing the wood on Isaac's shoulders to carry an offering up the mountain,
reminds me of Golgotha.

A striking thought my friend!

Thanks for beginning this thread Odhiambo!
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« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2015, 09:38:49 PM »

Typology points out what is to be expected, indicating through imitation, what is to happen before it happens"

St. Basil, "Treatise on The Holy Spirit"

I found this quote today  in one of my daily readings. I didn't know what the word meant, so  it was great to have an answer given to me that way. Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2015, 03:39:28 AM »

Typology points out what is to be expected, indicating through imitation, what is to happen before it happens"

St. Basil, "Treatise on The Holy Spirit"


A nice simple way of explaining it.
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« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2015, 04:57:05 AM »

Yes, George's point is really striking for as Isaac carried the wood for his own sacrifice,  so did Jesus carry His own cross and both submitted humbly. Isaac in particular could have fought off his father. He was young and strong whereas Abraham was already weak;  but he submitted. crucifix
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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2015, 01:00:11 AM »

Is The Song of Hannah  foreshadowing  the Magnificat?
 Or is that our Lady using language familiar to her in her own song of praise and thanksgiving to The Lord?

This discussion on typology is  interesting  to me. my exposure to the term up until now has to do with archeology
And using typology to sort out, for example pottery shards or spear tips. It was sorting by physical characteristics and also deciding when a variation was an intentional departure from the norm or a makers failure to meet the ideals of the particular object.

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« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2015, 05:59:31 AM »

We have a sermon on typology in Exodus. ( I need to listen again as it has all seeped out of this non retaining brain of mine  Grin)
Let us look at typology in Genesis, in particular I am thinking of Isaac as foreshadowing Jesus.
Let me start off by the manner of his conception and birth. This was a miraculous conception and birth considering the fact that both parents were too old to have children in normal circumstances and the mother had been barren all her life. The Angel of the Lord announced to Zachariah that his wife would conceive and bear a child.
Compare that with the circumstances surrounding Jesus Incarnation and Birth.
That prefiguration is true of all the holy women who were considered "sterile" and unable to concieve in the Old testament. It also includes St elizabeth. 
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« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2015, 06:47:51 AM »

Yes, George's point is really striking for as Isaac carried the wood for his own sacrifice,  so did Jesus carry His own cross and both submitted humbly. Isaac in particular could have fought off his father. He was young and strong whereas Abraham was already weak;  but he submitted. crucifix

'The sacrifice of Abraham is the most perfect model of the sacrifice of religious life. If Isaac had not allowed himself to be bound willingly, had he resisted, if Abraham had not been so generous, what occurred would never have happened, and neither Abraham nor Isaac would have merited as they did. Abraham asked no questions, he raised no difficulty to God's command, he did not propose for the accomplishment of his sacrifice any other than the place which the Lord had assigned for it. He simply obeyed. You, my dear daughters, should do as much; you ought to submit to God's will in all things, obeying blindly, generously, and treasures of happiness will redound to your souls.'

St. Mary Euphrasia Pelletier, To the Sisters of the Noviatiate On Obedience, Conferences and Instructions

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« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2015, 05:09:23 AM »

It makes me think of Abel too!
Abel's offering of the lamb was a prefiguration of Christ's death on the Cross. That is why God was plesed with it. 
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« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2015, 05:55:05 AM »

Cain's killing of Abel was a prefiguration of Christ's death on the Cross.
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« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2015, 06:36:01 AM »

The relation between Isacc and his half brother Ismael is a prefiguraaion between the old covenant and the new.
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« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2015, 11:43:31 AM »

I do not quite see how that is
Can you please explain further?
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« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2015, 05:06:03 AM »

I do not quite see how that is
Can you please explain further?
Ismael was the older brother but Isaac was the child of the promise. Jesus was the child of the promise also and he brought us our salvation and the the New Covenant. Ismael, the older brother is a prefiguration of the Old Covenant that God had with the Jews. Isaac, as the child of the promise is a prefiguration of the coming of Christ.     
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