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Yes, no matter what rocks the Church one must stay faithful through thick and thin. We will know the complete reality only when God decides to reveal it or after death.
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Whether certain fects were known or not one could almost deduce by what has already happened in the church that something serious has gone wrong. [mod edit for content]
It would be even more surprizing if the enemies of the church didn't use such tactics as described earlier.
I've noticed too that on some catholic forums (this forum of course excluded) there are people who I feel are posing as catholics and putting in all sorts of subtle lies to confuse genuine users who are seeking answers to various questions.
Sticking to the traditions and standards that the church has always held is the only sure way to prevent being deceived.
Thank God for the Saints. We can't go wrong by heeding them.
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Here're some further quotes.. I might add, as with all quotes, I prefer saints quotes above all others..
"During the time of the approach of the punishments announced at La Salette, an unlimited amount of false revelations will arise from Hell like a swarm of flies; a last attempt of Satan to choke and destroy the belief in the true revelations by false ones."
Prophecy of Marie Julie Jahenny, Briton Stigmatist (1891)
(Rev. R. Gerald Culleton, The Reign of Antichrist, p. 177.)
'The apostasy of the city of Rome from the vicar of Christ and its destruction by Antichrist may be thoughts so new to many Catholics, that I think it well to recite the text of theologians of greatest repute. First Malvenda, who writes expressly on the subject, states as the opinion of Ribera, Gaspar Melus, Biegas, Suarrez, Bellarmine and Bosius that Rome shall apostatise from the faith, drive away the Vicar of Christ and return to its ancient paganism. . . Then the Church shall be scattered, driven into the wilderness, and shall be for a time, as it was in the beginning, invisible hidden in catacombs, in dens, in mountains, in lurking places; for a time it shall be swept, as it were from the face of the earth. Such is the universal testimony of the Fathers of the early Church.'
Henry Edward Cardinal Manning, The Present Crisis of the Holy See, 1861, London: Burns and Lambert, pp. 88-90
"Men will surrender to the spirit of the age. They will say that if they had lived in our day, Faith would be simple and easy. But in their day, they will say, things are complex; the Church must be brought up to date and made meaningful to the day’s problems. When the Church and the World are one, then those days are at hand. Because our Divine Master placed a barrier between His things and the things of the world."
St. Anthony of the Desert (4th Century) [Disquisition CXIV]
(Quoted in Voice of Fatima, January 23, 1968).
This last quote I can't source back further than an attribution to the 'Voice of Fatima' 1968, said 'Voice of Fatima' perhaps the official work of the Bishop of Fatima -- but I do not even have that in its original. I have not found anything in existence about any Disquisitions of St. Anthony or Disquisition CXIV. I do not know what the entire official works of St. Anthony are.
Given its contents, this last quote needs further backup. That said I have only done some Internet searching to try to find it, not inquired further at this point.
At first glance people might think it didn't need further backup, but it does because it's very serious if accurate. The language of the translation is very telling.
That said, even without backup, the spiritual sentiments of it.. the content and the problems it calls note to can be immediately understood.
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Patricia earlier you mentioned Rianjo, let's quote it and part of an article on it here. Do you know more about it?
The Apparition at Rianjo (1931)
In August 1931, due to illness, Sister Lucy was staying with a friend at Rianjo, Spain, a small maritime city near Pontevedra, to rest and recover. It was in the chapel here that the Messenger of Fatima was once again given a communication from Heaven. Our Lord complained to Sister Lucy of the tardiness of His ministers who delay the Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, as requested by Our Lady of Fatima on June 13, 1929 at Tuy, two years and two months earlier. Sister Lucy reported to her bishop the important revelation:
My confessor ordered me to inform Your Excellency about what happened a little while ago, between our Good God and myself: As I was asking God for the conversion of Russia, Spain and Portugal, it seemed that His Divine Majesty said to me:
‘You console Me a great deal in asking Me for the conversion of those poor nations: Request it also of My Mother, while saying to Her often: Sweet Heart of Mary, be the salvation of Russia, Spain, Portugal, Europe and the whole world.
‘At other times say: By Thy Pure and Immaculate Conception, O Mary, obtain for me the conversion of Russia, Spain, Portugal, Europe and the whole world.
‘Make it known to My ministers, given that they follow the example of the King of France in delaying the execution of My command, they will follow him into misfortune. It is never too late to have recourse to Jesus and Mary.’
In another text she wrote,
Later, through an intimate communication, Our Lord complained to me: ‘They did not wish to heed My request! ... Like the King of France they will repent of it, and they will do it, but it will be late. Russia will have already spread its errors in the world, provoking wars and persecutions against the Church. The Holy Father will have much to suffer.’
Our Lord was here making an explicit reference to the requests of the Sacred Heart given through Saint Margaret Mary Alacoque on June 17, 1689 to the King of France. As a result of the refusal of King Louis XIV – as well as the refusal of both his son and grandson, King Louis XV and King Louis XVI – to publicly consecrate France to the Sacred Heart of Jesus, as was requested by Heaven by means of a recognized French Saint of that time, the Protestant and Masonic Counter-Church successfully carried out the great upheaval of the French Revolution.
On June 17, 1789, (the Feast of the Sacred Heart) exactly one hundred years to the day from when Saint Margaret Mary had written down the great designs of Heaven for the King, the Third Estate rose up and proclaimed itself a National Assembly, stripping King Louis XVI of his legislative power. On January 21, 1793, France, ungrateful and rebellious to its God, dared to decapitate its most Christian King as if he were a criminal. At Rianjo, Jesus warns us that this dark chapter of history will repeat itself, and this time the ministers of His Church – the bishops, and perhaps even the Pope himself – will be among its hapless victims.
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Not many people are aware of the Apparition at Rianjo (1931) I know as much about it as you , Shin from what you have posted above.
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Later, through an intimate communication, Our Lord complained to me: ‘They did not wish to heed My request! ... Like the King of France they will repent of it, and they will do it, but it will be late. Russia will have already spread its errors in the world, provoking wars and persecutions against the Church. The Holy Father will have much to suffer.’
This complaint of Our Lord fills me with fear. He says ' Like the King of France they will repent of it, and they will do it, but it will be late...' He is talking about the request of Our Lady of Fatima to consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary.
It will be late
...that spells disaster for me . Our disobedience is bringing in world chastisement.
My brother wonders if 2017 will be the year when the triumph of Our Lady's Immaculate Heart will come about and when a hundred years will be completed since the request of Our Lady, like the hundred years that passed since the request of the Sacred Heart to St. Margaret Mary. Hundred years later the King of France was decapitated. What will happen 100 years since the request of Our Lady of Fatima, I shudder to think. But my hope and prayer is that the Pope will finally consecrate Russia and bring about world peace and avert the inevitable chastisement that will follow disobedience.
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One of the articles in the modesty section of the website is by Rev. Bernard Kunkel, entitled
'Certain Fashions Threaten to Retard Mary's Triumph and World Peace'
He says, "How can we expect Mary's triumph and world peace in an unchastened human society?"
Basically, Fr. Ripperger has said, if I recall correctly, that at this level of corruption a civilization has to fall apart and/or go through a great deal of trouble and disaster to reform morally, as it's not at a reformable stage without it. And spiritually chastisement simply has to happen.
I just don't see societal morals reforming in a way that produces true spiritual peace without something like that, I really find it hard to imagine anything that would otherwise reform hmm.. the family, purity issues, etc.
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This prophecy thread is becoming a great reference.
Here're links to two other threads with information that fits into what is here.
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The Three Days of Darkness
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Our Lady of Good Success
Now to continue..
As we learn from such as St. Gaspar, and Dupont's work, and Dupont has he has said, records of far more prophecies than he has published..
That after the Three Days of Darkness there will be few people left, and those that are, will return to the simpler life, a less technological life.. The kind of life that one might have found at St. Padre Pio's village, or Our Lord and Our Lady living..
Or Plain Catholic, who I miss seeing, but then it is Lent, so I expect she might be being even more good about computers. We could take lessons from her.. I wish she was here..
That said I think that it may be that mainly only people who are living the simpler life
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will make it through the Three Days of Darkness..
It seems he thinks major cities are going to be destroyed.. And also of course, it's harder to live decently there..
I was just thinking earlier today, something that has always been on my mind, for some reason or other since I was young.. what it would be like to live as self sufficiently as possible.. growing one's own food.. making one's own clothes.. one's own paper.. soap.. supplies.. etc. Using heirloom seeds (that is seeds that when you farm, produce produce that has seeds you can use).. And wishing I had a book on how to do it, and wondering what books and resources were out there..
That's to a degree what the monastic life can be like.. too..
And I was commenting a bit ago, about how, when one lives a less technologically oriented life, the natural law takes effect more.. it is technology which is responsible for many of the deviations in the family life.. the roles of men and women.. and so forth.. they fall into place again, without the 'conveniences' and 'entertainment'..
So too, truly valuable work done becomes possible again.. rather than work that is part of this system of corruption.. where so many employments require one to set aside moral principles (which is never allowable) to be a part of it..
Whole families living together.. simpler lives, but lives closer to one another.. grandparents.. children.. grandchildren.. all together..
Here, next I'm going to post Dupont on the Three Days of Darkness.. And what he believes is the lead up to it, from his research..
[edit: made a correction about the cities]
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Dupont believes in 'The Warning' and 'The Miracle'.. two events which I am not studied on.. so I cannot say much about at this point.. I do not know all the sources about them..
In other words, I don't have quotes at this point.
So FWIF:
I will quote how he describes them:
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THE WARNING AND THE MIRACLE
These will take place between the proximate and the immediate signs. Both will be supernatural occurrences, and the Miracle will closely follow the Warning. There will be a solar prodigy; a Cross will be visible in the sky all over the world. The Warning will be associated with the letter "A"; it will not fall on a Feast day of Our Lady, nor on the 18th of the month.
The Miracle will fall on the Feast day of a young martyr of the Eucharist; this will be on a Thursday evening, and it will coincide with an important Church event.
Since the Miracle is to be seen only in Northern Spain and in Rome, and since the Cross in the sky is to be seen everywhere, it seems that the latter occurrence will take place with the Warning, not with the Miracle. However, the Miracle may also have a Cross in the sky.
During the Warning, everyone will be made aware of his/her own sinfulness, and many will wish to die, but the Warning itself will be completely harmless.
Both the Warning and the Miracle must be viewed as the last act of mercy from God, a final appeal to mankind to do penance before the three days of darkness and the destruction of three-quarters of the human race. At a time when the murder of unborn babies and the sin of Sodom and Lesbos have become respectable and sometimes legal, we should not wonder why God is going to punish mankind.
By that time, war and revolution will have already caused a high deathtoll, and Communism will be victorious, but all this will be as nothing compared with the deathtoll caused by the Three Days."
That's from Dupont.. now to continue.. FWIF the lead up to the Three Days he believes is the above.. Next the events of the Three Days of Darkness described...
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THE IMMEDIATE SIGN
It will be a bitterly cold winter night in the Northern hemisphere. (Presumably, a very cold summer night in Australia or, by contrast, a torrid night.) The wind will howl and roar. Lightning and thunderbolts of an unprecedented magnitude will strike the earth. The whole earth will shake, heavenly bodies will be disturbed – (this will be the beginning of the Three Days). Every Demon, every evil spirit will be released from hell and allowed to roam the earth. Terrifying apparitions will take place. Many will die from sheer fright. Fire will rain forth from the sky, all large cities will be destroyed, poisonous gases will fill the air, cries and lamentations everywhere. The unbelievers will burn in the open like withered grass. The entire earth will be afflicted; it will look like a huge graveyard.
As soon as you notice that bitterly cold night, go indoors, lock all doors and windows, pull down the blinds, stick adhesive paper on vents and around windows and doors. Do not answer calls from outside, do not look at the windows, or you will die on the spot: keep your eyes down to make sure you do not see the windows; the Wrath of God is mighty and no one should attempt to behold it. Light blessed wax candles; nothing else will burn, but the candles will not be extinguished once lit. Nothing will put them out in the houses of the faithful, but they will not burn in the houses of the godless. Sprinkle holy water about the house and especially in the vicinity of doors and windows: the devils fear holy water. Bless yourself with it and anoint your five senses with it: eyes, ears, nose, mouth, hands, feet, and forehead. Keep on hand a sufficient supply of drinking water and, if possible, food also (but you can live without food for three days.) Kneel down and pray incessantly with outstretched arms, or prostrate on the floor. Make acts of contrition, faith, hope, and charity. Above all say the Rosary and meditate on the Sorrowful mysteries.
Some people, especially children, will be taken up to Heaven beforehand to spare them the horror of these days. People caught outdoors will die instantly. Three-quarters of the human race will be exterminated, – more men than women. No one will escape the terror of these days.
But, when all seems lost and hopeless, then, in the twinkling of an eye, the ordeal will be over: the sun will rise and shine again as in springtime over a purified earth.
Some nations will disappear entirely, and the face of the earth will be changed. There will be no more "Big Business" and huge factories which sap men's souls. Craftsmanship will revive, and assembly lines will give way to the working bench.
People will return to the land, but food will be scarce for about three years. Married women will bear many children, for it will be regarded as a disgrace not to have children, – no more "career women" addicted to the "pill". Unmarried females, – there will be many, will enter the religious orders and form large congregations of Nuns within the reborn Church. Disease will decrease dramatically, and mental illnesses will be rare, for man will have retrieved his natural environment. It will be an age of faith, true brotherhood between neighbors, civil harmony, peace, and prosperity. The land will yield crops as never before. Police will have little work to do: crime will disappear almost entirely. Mutual trust and honesty will be universal. There will be little work for lawyers, either. All the manpower which is currently taken up by the wickedness of the modern world will be released and available for the production of useful commodities. Thus, prosperity will be very great. This wonderful period will probably last 30 years approximately.
As soon as you see the sun rise again at the end of the Three Days, drop to your knees and give thanks to God."
And lastly.. He adds:
"Be warned, SPREAD THE MESSAGE, but do not fear: it would be an offense to God to show lack of confidence in His protection. Those who spread the message will be protected, but the scoffers, the skeptics, and those who dismiss the message because they are frightened, will not escape the chastisement.
WHAT TO DO NOW
SPREAD THE MESSAGE; do not be put out by those who laugh it off or think you are a bit odd. This is the price we have to pay, for no disciple of Christ can escape scorn or even persecution. Remain in the state of grace. Go to Mass, and regularly receive Holy Communion. Say your rosary every day. Obtain some wax candles and have these blessed by a Traditionalist priest. Do not buy ordinary white candles; they are not made of wax. Do not trust either a "new-breed" priest to bless your candles. Pray for the Church and for the Pope in particular; it is not for us to judge the Pope, no matter what he does or says, – this is God's prerogative, but we must pray for him. Say the prayer to St. Michael which Leo XIII composed after witnessing a terrifying vision of Satan's power. Wear the Brown Scapular and the miraculous medal. Deny yourself some legitimate pleasures and entertainment; many seers insist on this. Eat sparingly, frugally, to sustain life more than to gratify the palate. When the proximate signs are over, i.e., war and revolution culminating in the victory of communism, when you behold the Warning, then store up food, drinking water, blankets and other necessities."
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Then the Church shall be scattered, driven into the wilderness, and shall be for a time, as it was in the beginning, invisible hidden in catacombs, in dens, in mountains, in lurking places; for a time it shall be swept, as it were from the face of the earth. Such is the universal testimony of the Fathers of the early Church.'
I'm so used to comfort, this will be hard! But it's worth it to me - it's the only thing to do.
Brigid, I once went to a Latin Mass in a crypt beneath a basilica. Priest and server + 2 people! I felt like I was in a catacomb, but after I thought about it, I decided that if soldiers came bursting in to arrest us it would have been glorious! It was a lovely holy Mass.
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If Warning associated with the letter "A" then maybe in April or August or an "A" feast day.
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Brigid, I once went to a Latin Mass in a crypt beneath a basilica. Priest and server + 2 people! I felt like I was in a catacomb, but after I thought about it, I decided that if soldiers came bursting in to arrest us it would have been glorious! It was a lovely holy Mass.
This is a truly beautiful and holy thought Susanna!
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If Warning associated with the letter "A" then maybe in April or August or an "A" feast day.
Hmm.. I wonder what it all means..
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'And the brother said to him: 'What then? Shall the customs and Traditions of the Christians change, and shall there be no priests in the Church so that such things happen?’
And the elder said: ‘In times such as those, the love of many shall grow cold, and there shall be not a little tribulation: overrunning of nations and movement of peoples, apostasy of kings, prodigality of priests, negligence of those in monastic life; and there shall be superiors disdaining their own salvation and that of their flocks; all of them eager and outstanding at banquets, contentious, indolent in prayers, and eager to slander, ready to condemn the lives of the Elders and their sayings, neither imitating nor hearing them, but rather reviling them and saying: 'If we had lived in those days, we too would have struggled.' And the bishops in those days shall be respecters of powerful persons, making decisions according to gifts, not defending the poor under judgment, oppressing widows, abusing orphans; and unbelief shall enter into the people, depravity, hatred, enmity, jealousy, rivalries, thievery, drunkenness.'
And the brother said: 'What then is one to do in those times and years?' And the elder said: 'Child, in such days as these, he who can, let him save his own soul, and he shall be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven.'"'
- the sayings of the Desert Fathers
The last words of this came to mind so I looked this passage up again. I have often thought of these last words.
"He who can, let him save his own soul, and he shall be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven."
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Quote from: Shin on May 19, 2013, 09:45:11 PM
The last words of this came to mind so I looked this passage up again. I have often thought of these last words.
"He who can, let him save his own soul, and he shall be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven."
That's the best thing I've seen on this thread.
A lot of these prophecies are a little vague, it seems. It's so easy to get caught up in the details, when what we really need to know is that 1) the Bible and the saints predict a time of apostasy, 2) this is such a time, and 3) Jesus promised that the gates of Hell would never prevail against the Church.
I see some posts coming dangerously close to questioning the validity of the current Church.
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